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Pinkyman
12-12-2016, 01:25 PM
If they're only being used on the trail, I'd just keep using them until they don't hold air at all anymore or become too much of a pain in the ass. But then again, I'm a cheap-ass so you might not want to do what I would do. :smiley-scared003:

Agreed. The last tires i took off were 16 years old, but they had plenty of tread. They still did great on the trails, but since i drive mine on the street, they had to go. If they were trail only, i would still be using them. :D

denverd1
12-12-2016, 05:36 PM
If they're only being used on the trail, I'd just keep using them until they don't hold air at all anymore or become too much of a pain in the ass. But then again, I'm a cheap-ass so you might not want to do what I would do. :smiley-scared003:

I agree, to an extent.

the PITA factor was almost VERY significant on the last one when it started losing air. Really don't understand how I made it back to camp. Was at the very bottom of 3 rated trail, trying to climb up and out on a 4. If I climbed out of the 4, smooth roads for 1 mile back to camp. I heard it leaking and checked it out. Decided my best bet was the 3 I came down. After a 7 pt 180° I cleared the 3 and had about 2 miles back to camp on good roads.

If the radio was up, I would have gotten stuck on the 4 and had an interesting recovery to say the least. No where to change the flat and it was just me out there at the moment. They may have a few rides left, but not many. looking back at those pics, only one of them is starting to crack. They've got a few rides left, I'll just have to keep my full spare ready to go.

4.3LXJ
12-13-2016, 11:15 AM
Yup, keep that spare aired up and use them

denverd1
12-14-2016, 10:53 AM
picking up a hi lift in a few minutes

Brasscatz
12-16-2016, 04:08 PM
Got my door signs in (the ones I had were too tall for the xj door). Also replaced my giant starter fuse that blew when trying to figure out how to wire my light switches after dash removal. Traced all those wires and got them working. Also figured out why my third brake light wasn't working.


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denverd1
12-19-2016, 12:34 PM
worked on steering gear bracket and ordered stiffeners

also discovered water in my husky mat on pass floor. I'd suspect driver door leaking before pass door. also suspect heater core. will check levels and report back. really don't feel like ripping carpet out

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MonsterNoggin
12-24-2016, 02:29 PM
Swapped out battery and alternator last night, popped the rear diff cover today and after 215k all is looking well. Now for some cleanup and fresh oil.

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XJ Wheeler
12-25-2016, 02:34 AM
Been an interesting night. Took the xj (yes, it's decorated) to look at Christmas lights about an hour from home. Sooo, about 30 minutes in its starting to pull to the left a little. It progressed quickly and I pulled off. Yep, left front wheel warm. So we decided to trek home. Stopped a couple times to let it cool then it let go after grabbing some food at a gas station. Routed to back streets from then on and never used the brake pedal. It may be a bit more worn but the ebrake got some use tonight! Don't worry I was easy on it... no matter how everyone behind me felt. [emoji14] Took 3 hours to get home but so glad we made it on its own capacity. Never dull owning a jeep!

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Dwskevin
12-26-2016, 09:57 AM
My buddy Scott welded in my Clayton crossmember

nickyg
12-26-2016, 03:55 PM
worked on steering gear bracket and ordered stiffeners

also discovered water in my husky mat on pass floor. I'd suspect driver door leaking before pass door. also suspect heater core. will check levels and report back. really don't feel like ripping carpet out

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I just went through the same thing. Turned out to be the grommet where the radio antenna enters was rotted.

prerunner1982
12-27-2016, 08:30 AM
Got the front end of the 93 in the air and supported and began front axle removal.
Was trying to get the front axle to drop far enough for the coils (and 2" spacers) to drop out, but no luck. Only thing still connected are the control arms and the driveshaft. Was hoping to drop the coils before I work on disconnecting the control arms, but will work on it another day.

I also pulled the shafts out of the '99 Dana 30 that's going under the 93 and was not pleased with what I saw. I really need to open the diff, however I don't suspect it will be nearly as clean as the rear axle was. :(:thumbdown:

denverd1
12-27-2016, 12:23 PM
did you drop them in the dirt?? oil looks clean, what that junk on the splines?

denverd1
12-27-2016, 12:27 PM
I just went through the same thing. Turned out to be the grommet where the radio antenna enters was rotted.

Thanks Nicky. I have a hard plastic piece right under the antenna that looks to be in good shape.

also just did cowl intake, but I don't think that could be it, all seals and cowl itself seem to be in good shape, save for a small crack on the front passenger corner of the cowl.

thought about heater core as I was messing with the AC last time I drove it. Had some rain since I parked it and wasn't wet at all yesterday.

Now I'm headed to hardware store for some grade 8 bolts to finish my steering gear support :bacondance:

prerunner1982
12-27-2016, 02:47 PM
did you drop them in the dirt?? oil looks clean, what that junk on the splines?

nope... it really appeared to be metal. Maybe crap that accumulated in the axle tube that the oil picked up as I pulled it out, or at least that's what I am hoping.

denverd1
12-27-2016, 03:02 PM
nope... it really appeared to be metal. Maybe crap that accumulated in the axle tube that the oil picked up as I pulled it out, or at least that's what I am hoping.

kinda what I thought as well, looks like some rust scale flaked off the tube. I wouldn't worry about it, no way the diff is that funky

OldFaurt
12-27-2016, 09:43 PM
Stood for 45 minutes to pay my Vehicle tags on my Jeep! YEAH!
No longer need to smog, just safety inspection for $7.

Now if I could just sort out the rear pinion yoke. it is worn a bit and the U-joint cap to cap are 1/16th shorter than the cap stops on the Pinion Yoke.
I am not sure if I can weld up the Cap stops and reform them without making the whole thing
off balanced.

Ah the follies and toils of Jeeping never ends...

Thank God!

4.3LXJ
12-28-2016, 01:08 AM
I understand wanting to save money, but I think you would be much better off getting the pinion yoke that takes U bolts. When I get around to pulling the trigger on my rear end swap, I will have a good one to give away. Shipping might be a problem though

Brasscatz
12-29-2016, 05:40 PM
The other day I went up to Matt's shop and snagged a new rear wiper motor he had on a spare bank hatch. I have a working rear wiper now! I also took the opportunity to install my rear bumper and put a vacuum on my ac system.

Today, I decided to begin removing my front bumper to finally install my arb I bought from firemanray (r.i.p. good buddy) but only got as far as removing my front skid, factory fog lights and the bumper corners before the wife called me in for dinner.

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4.3LXJ
12-29-2016, 06:50 PM
That is progress

bluedragon436
12-29-2016, 10:13 PM
Finally got the remaining parts for my rear tire carrier bumper... almost two years after ordering the bumper, I finally got all the parts for it.. Now to get up with an old co-worker to have him powder coat it, after I drill out the holes for the flush mount LED lights.. I would have liked to have ordered parts for my GF's LJ.. but won't ever purchase from this company again after all this crap.. sad thing is, had to have a distributor of his products step in, in order to make things happen.. pretty sad way to run a business.. but at least the guy who stepped in and made things happen, runs his business right... now just to get my XJ up to him so I can get my gears installed... (finally)

XJ Wheeler
12-30-2016, 06:26 PM
The other day I went up to Matt's shop and snagged a new rear wiper motor he had on a spare bank hatch. I have a working rear wiper now! I also took the opportunity to install my rear bumper and put a vacuum on my ac system.

Today, I decided to begin removing my front bumper to finally install my arb I bought from firemanray (r.i.p. good buddy) but only got as far as removing my front skid, factory fog lights and the bumper corners before the wife called me in for dinner.

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It's getting modified again! Woohoo!

Finally got the remaining parts for my rear tire carrier bumper... almost two years after ordering the bumper, I finally got all the parts for it.. Now to get up with an old co-worker to have him powder coat it, after I drill out the holes for the flush mount LED lights.. I would have liked to have ordered parts for my GF's LJ.. but won't ever purchase from this company again after all this crap.. sad thing is, had to have a distributor of his products step in, in order to make things happen.. pretty sad way to run a business.. but at least the guy who stepped in and made things happen, runs his business right... now just to get my XJ up to him so I can get my gears installed... (finally)
That two years flew by though right... [emoji16]

Just imagine having on their website "two years production time"... [emoji1]

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OldFaurt
12-30-2016, 07:00 PM
I understand wanting to save money, but I think you would be much better off getting the pinion yoke that takes U bolts. When I get around to pulling the trigger on my rear end swap, I will have a good one to give away. Shipping might be a problem though

Too bad I don't still live in Santa Rosa... I would just drive over and buy it from you!
Right at the moment I haven't the money to buy the much better U-bolt version.
I need to get by until I can! It has destroyed my pinion bearing and I am hopeful I can
Tighten them up a bit and buy some time... They have already ruined the ring and pinion, but I am looking for a 8.25 rear end with at least 3.55:1 gearing. I am using a 3.07:1 from a v-8.
Ugh! I just replaced the blown motor with a much fresher 97 long block. The old motor had about 300,000 miles when the #5 cylinder piston skirt failed and ate the block. Rod and main bearings had copper showing and yet it had 45lbs oil pressure. Man I love 4.0L jeep engines! So, I am going to instal a new crush sleave, front bearing and measure an weld some blobs to keep the U-joint close to center. I live by "get by" In some ways... I think I enjoy it! The very best of new years to you!

Yee haw!

Brasscatz
12-30-2016, 08:23 PM
Got back up to Matt's shop and got the cat and a thrush muffler (picked up from the junkyard a couple years ago) welded in. Had enough time to get the front bumper installed as well! Now to figure out what I'm going to do with the bumper lights and my front licence plate.

Gotta say, with these bumpers on, it actually looks like a lifted jeep! The 3" lift wasn't very noticeable before.

Also, the muffler is perfect. Adds a nice low tone without being obnoxious.

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4.3LXJ
12-30-2016, 09:25 PM
Good to see you back in action Jim

Brasscatz
12-30-2016, 10:33 PM
Good to see you back in action Jim

Good to be back, Steve. After getting my civic for my DD and then parking the Jeep at Matt's shop for 2 years.... It's REALLY nice to have it back. I think the only thing I have left in my possession is the bigger lift and tires. Then I'll have to be done for a while until we can get back on our feet financially.

4.3LXJ
12-30-2016, 10:39 PM
I hear ya. Been saving parts for years

denverd1
12-31-2016, 03:00 AM
Before:
https://vimeo.com/197588948

After
https://vimeo.com/197589132

Killed a corded drill trying to get it done, thats 2 3/8" drill stem. Looks like it's 3/16 wall. Making a few calls on some of it, would make great link and cage material. obviously going to add another bolt to the brace. Need another drill.

I don't feel like that pitman arm is swinging like it should..any thoughts?

Works for now, hitting Barnwell tomorrow. [emoji41] [emoji106] [emoji109] [emoji482] [emoji2]
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bluedragon436
12-31-2016, 07:25 AM
Just imagine having on their website "two years production time"... [emoji1]

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Hey at least then I'd have a heads up before giving them my money.. Like I said, I give huge props to one of his distributors for stepping in and contacting the company telling him what I was still waiting on, and the saying if you don't get it in the next two weeks, let me know, and I'll either take it from a setup I have here in my shop, and then contact him to replace it, so I can sell his product... or I'll build it myself... I didn't purchase from him, and he still stepped in/up like that... I've never even done business with him (YET).. and he's still willing to do that... says a lot about him as a business owner, IMHO!!

4.3LXJ
12-31-2016, 10:07 AM
Before:
https://vimeo.com/197588948

After
https://vimeo.com/197589132

Killed a corded drill trying to get it done, thats 2 3/8" drill stem. Looks like it's 3/16 wall. Making a few calls on some of it, would make great link and cage material. obviously going to add another bolt to the brace. Need another drill.

I don't feel like that pitman arm is swinging like it should..any thoughts?

Works for now, hitting Barnwell tomorrow. [emoji41] [emoji106] [emoji109] [emoji482] [emoji2]
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Pitman arms don't move much. The question is, how much do the wheels move?

denverd1
12-31-2016, 05:36 PM
Just outwheeled a couple JKs. Followed my buddy in his TJ with 6" and lockers on 37s all day. Made it up a 5 on the last trail of the day. Got some rock rash on lower rear quarter and one wheel. Got video of most of the day. will post later. So much fun.

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XJ Wheeler
12-31-2016, 05:39 PM
Hey at least then I'd have a heads up before giving them my money.. Like I said, I give huge props to one of his distributors for stepping in and contacting the company telling him what I was still waiting on, and the saying if you don't get it in the next two weeks, let me know, and I'll either take it from a setup I have here in my shop, and then contact him to replace it, so I can sell his product... or I'll build it myself... I didn't purchase from him, and he still stepped in/up like that... I've never even done business with him (YET).. and he's still willing to do that... says a lot about him as a business owner, IMHO!!
Now that's great to hear! Need more of that kind of customer service and just courtesy in this world. Would be great to know who treats their customers (and even if only potential) like this... (wink-wink, nudge-nudge) :D

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4.3LXJ
12-31-2016, 06:12 PM
Alright! waiting for the vid

nickxj94
12-31-2016, 08:09 PM
Picked up a 78 Ford HP Dana 44 welded wedges for my axle swap. Picking up a 9 inch next week. Then save up for a TNT radius arm truss. http://www.tntcustoms.com/jeep_parts/front_axle_truss_ford_hp_dana_44_radius_arm_style
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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/b0ca2291c47f690ba810eae0177bf4bd.jpg time to upgrade. Tired of the Dana 30 breaking every time I wheel it.

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4.3LXJ
12-31-2016, 08:49 PM
Very nice. You will like the heavier running gear

denverd1
01-01-2017, 12:41 AM
Picked up a 78 Ford HP Dana 44 welded wedges for my axle swap. Picking up a 9 inch next week. Then save up for a TNT radius arm truss. http://www.tntcustoms.com/jeep_parts/front_axle_truss_ford_hp_dana_44_radius_arm_style
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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/b0ca2291c47f690ba810eae0177bf4bd.jpg time to upgrade. Tired of the Dana 30 breaking every time I wheel it.

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dude. solid. what tire height you shootin for?

and what size when it broke? look like 35s. nah 33s. locked? I want 35s but not sure it's a good idea. stock d30.c8.25
I'll beef the D30 first.
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denverd1
01-01-2017, 12:44 AM
Little low quarter love
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Gonna cut and fold, spray with CHILI PEPPER RED. Red adds 10 of rust protection.

Top of Weenie World - it's a 5.
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That JK with Kings had to winch up, he broke there yesterday and came back for redemption. Only shot his trackbar.

Barnwell, she's a wild beast. Let's get a ride setup. Awesome place
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TeXJ
01-01-2017, 05:13 PM
Little low quarter love
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/98a535f7ee27222c25399f3898a6b580.jpg
Gonna cut and fold, spray with CHILI PEPPER RED. Red adds 10 of rust protection.

Top of Weenie World - it's a 5.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/50c95994fd23be67a87a2a0d147c2bec.jpg

That JK with Kings had to winch up, he broke there yesterday and came back for redemption. Only shot his trackbar.

Barnwell, she's a wild beast. Let's get a ride setup. Awesome place
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nice man. It's been awhile since i've been to gilmer.

Oh and where's the video lol

nickxj94
01-01-2017, 05:18 PM
dude. solid. what tire height you shootin for?

and what size when it broke? look like 35s. nah 33s. locked? I want 35s but not sure it's a good idea. stock d30.c8.25
I'll beef the D30 first.
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I'll probably run 35s maybe 37s.
Running 33s now. Broke my front locker and destroyed the axle shafts, ball joints and hub assembly last trip out. Replaced everything and went back open in the front. Now I'll build the d44-9 inch and hopefully have them under it in a few months.

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SamanthaXJ
01-01-2017, 08:17 PM
First time I've been able to post in this thread in almost three years!

I didn't do anything too exciting though; vacuumed, new wiper blades, picked up some floor matts for the front seats, replaced the air filter and put a hose clamp on it.

denverd1
01-02-2017, 03:02 PM
this is the plan. gonna see how far I can get before my back seizes up like an XJ leaf spring bolt
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4.3LXJ
01-02-2017, 03:04 PM
You will like that front locker. LOKKA?

denverd1
01-02-2017, 07:33 PM
You will like that front locker. LOKKA?
It's a lokka. bought em when aussie took a break. rear has held up well, also lokka. been in for almost 2 years, no complaints.

When we were out at Barnwell NYE (yes the video is coming LOL) there were several times where front lockage would've made a big difference. Can't wait.

Here's where we are
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bluedragon436
01-02-2017, 08:07 PM
About to order up a set of Lokka Lockers for my 97.. One day I hope to be able to afford some selectable lockers... but for now.. Got to have as much fun as I can with the budget I got.. lol #JEEPLIFE

XJ Wheeler
01-03-2017, 04:41 AM
Hit up my favored junkyard Saturday for 1/2 off weekend and got nothing I needed, well mostly. But I did find some "couldn't pass up"s. Tucked way in the back of the yard was a 96 XJ country that had some nice options and a few neat mods. My brother snagged a couple good pieces. I got the sweet door panels. Woodgrain and dark gray vinyl! No more tweed! I also grabbed the overhead console that was in excellent shape along with the harness and brackets. Kinda wished I woulda nabbed the headliner too but it was a little dirty... but it had window visors too. One (driver) was broken but I figured I could probably find one easier than a whole set to complete it later so I set about removing them. I quickly found out why the drivers was broken. Got the passenger side visors off but the rear driver snapped easy. And upon checking out with the cashier I cracked the front passenger ( :bang: ) but it didn't break completely so I may try to use it still. Looked over and embedded in the mud was a Performance Distributors' coil. The same one I run so I got that too with the hope it works. If it does i'll have a $6 spare versus $66 that a new one goes for. Got to looking around and found a 97+ 2dr 4.0 auto (first 2dr I've seen in the yard before) and a 4cyl stick, but a lower model white XJ caught my eye. Nothing on the outside but in that got me excited. First I saw the switch panel to the left of the steering column. No fog light switch but a "extended idle" switch and marking, then I turn to the center and low and behold it had the mini console in the center. First of all those I've seen in person. You know I had to take them!

Still need that other stuff though...

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prerunner1982
01-03-2017, 08:43 AM
Washed the daily XJ and pulled the front axle from the project XJ.

denverd1
01-04-2017, 11:44 AM
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Locker in carrier. Goes back in Jeep tomorrow

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4.3LXJ
01-04-2017, 12:22 PM
And you managed to not have one of those little springs shoot off into some parallel dimension? :D

bluedragon436
01-04-2017, 01:28 PM
And you managed to not have one of those little springs shoot off into some parallel dimension? :D

This is the part I'm not looking forward to once I get my gears installed... and decide to take on the dual lunchbox install.. maybe I should order some spares just in case... springs that is... not lockers...

denverd1
01-04-2017, 01:32 PM
This is the part I'm not looking forward to once I get my gears installed... and decide to take on the dual lunchbox install.. maybe I should order some spares just in case... springs that is... not lockers...

Front was easy with it out on well lit table. Doing the rear with carrier in diff was a different story, although not difficult. didn't find the springs to be too bad in either case. Put the pin in first, then the spring. didn't matter if you put the spring into the detent first or on the pin, pretty much same process either way. on front, had 2 that didn't seat down properly on first try, easy to push them in a little further. I used a 90° pick on the rear and a standard small flathead on the front. Had to redo the rear, forgot why but I had something out of place. Think I forgot a c clip or spacer or something.

Ordered stiffeners. Need a trip to JY for some spare axle shafts.

4.3LXJ
01-04-2017, 01:55 PM
This is the part I'm not looking forward to once I get my gears installed... and decide to take on the dual lunchbox install.. maybe I should order some spares just in case... springs that is... not lockers...

I got Spartans for the same price. They don't have that problem with their design

denverd1
01-04-2017, 02:00 PM
I got Spartans for the same price. They don't have that problem with their design

you got spartans for $200 each?? I didn't have a problem with the springs on either. I know some people who have problems putting their pants on correctly tho. Sounds like one of those people might have had issues with their Lokka. No idea. easy peasy for me.

I might do a vid of taking one or two of the springs out and putting them back in so folks can see how easy it is.

denverd1
01-04-2017, 02:24 PM
I got Spartans for the same price. They don't have that problem with their design

maybe I'm not understanding the problem? or the design changed?? Have you looked at a lokka?

4.3LXJ
01-04-2017, 03:47 PM
I have both now

denverd1
01-04-2017, 04:44 PM
I have both now

oh. IDK

denverd1
01-05-2017, 12:27 AM
I got Spartans for the same price. They don't have that problem with their design
Now that I think about it, the one I put in the 8.25 was a bit of a bear. the slot the spring dropped through wasn't big enough for the spring to clear. There was some definite massaging. but IIRC only one cam gear was like that.

I can definitely say this one was machined perfectly. Just enough clearance and it's not going anywhere.

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4.3LXJ
01-05-2017, 12:47 AM
The difference, main difference IMHO is that the LOKKA is precision cast and the Spartan is machined

denverd1
01-05-2017, 01:19 AM
The difference, main difference IMHO is that the LOKKA is precision cast and the Spartan is machined
that explains the tolerances on things like spring slots right?

I'm sure spartan is a better product. just wanna lock em up. s

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4.3LXJ
01-05-2017, 10:47 AM
I think they both work. From what I hear, Spartan is more harsh in locking and unlocking. We shall see

bluedragon436
01-06-2017, 12:25 AM
Yeah I have heard that the Spartans are a bit more harsh... that and the pricing.. is the main reason for my decision to go with Lokka for both ends of my XJ... Question for you guys though... do you guys run any special diff fluid with the lunchbox lockers?? or I guess the question is what fluid do you guys run in your diffs with the lunchbox lockers?? I have to pickup gear oil for both diffs when the gears get done, and the Solid diff covers get installed.. figured want to make sure I get the good stuff.. but also the right stuff..

Going to have to brave the cold a bit tomorrow, swap out my LED headlights for my H4 conversion housings, and "build" some "covers" for my A-pillar pods... inspection kind of snuck up on me, thought I still had till the end of the month and had time to get proper covers on order... oh well... going to try and see if I can get her through inspection tomorrow before we get real snow fall... was going to try and register her in SC when I went home on holiday visit.. but unfortunately with the semi quick leaving of the state, I left my registration/title stuff here in DE instead of bringing it with me... so will have to give DE my money for at least another year of registration.. I just hope I can get it through inspection with a pass tomorrow..

Pinkyman
01-06-2017, 08:40 AM
Going to have to brave the cold a bit tomorrow, swap out my LED headlights for my H4 conversion housings

Watcha doin with your LED headlights once they are out? :D

4.3LXJ
01-06-2017, 10:52 AM
Yeah I have heard that the Spartans are a bit more harsh... that and the pricing.. is the main reason for my decision to go with Lokka for both ends of my XJ... Question for you guys though... do you guys run any special diff fluid with the lunchbox lockers?? or I guess the question is what fluid do you guys run in your diffs with the lunchbox lockers?? I have to pickup gear oil for both diffs when the gears get done, and the Solid diff covers get installed.. figured want to make sure I get the good stuff.. but also the right stuff..

I use 90W. But I also use stuff called Power Punch. They make an additive for differentials/trans/transfer case etc. I get it at NAPA. It is an extreme pressure additive and I have used it in diffs for years. I haven't tried it on the Spartans yet, but makes the LOKKAs pretty smooth

abebehrmann
01-06-2017, 11:35 AM
I use 90W. But I also use stuff called Power Punch. They make an additive for differentials/trans/transfer case etc. I get it at NAPA. It is an extreme pressure additive and I have used it in diffs for years. I haven't tried it on the Spartans yet, but makes the LOKKAs pretty smooth

Hey Steve, is this the stuff?

bluedragon436
01-06-2017, 11:47 AM
I use 90W. But I also use stuff called Power Punch. They make an additive for differentials/trans/transfer case etc. I get it at NAPA. It is an extreme pressure additive and I have used it in diffs for years. I haven't tried it on the Spartans yet, but makes the LOKKAs pretty smooth

How much of the Power Punch do you run in each axle?? I have to figure out how much more than stock the Solid covers will require... and then figure out what I need for total amounts from there..

4.3LXJ
01-06-2017, 01:57 PM
Hey Steve, is this the stuff?


How much of the Power Punch do you run in each axle?? I have to figure out how much more than stock the Solid covers will require... and then figure out what I need for total amounts from there..

That is the stuff. Put the whole thing in

denverd1
01-06-2017, 02:16 PM
I run 90W. no additives, although thats good to know.

bluedragon436
01-06-2017, 07:27 PM
Got it through inspection today... only got failed for the club banner on the windshield, even though it was good by DOT laws, and nothing on DE inspection rules said it was bad... but whatever... got it renewed and ready to go for the snow we're supposed to get... Will have to look into picking up some fluid... and I guess I'll have to order up the Power Punch, cause my Napa doesn't carry it...

Brasscatz
01-07-2017, 10:04 AM
Got it through inspection today... only got failed for the club banner on the windshield, even though it was good by DOT laws, and nothing on DE inspection rules said it was bad... but whatever... got it renewed and ready to go for the snow we're supposed to get... Will have to look into picking up some fluid... and I guess I'll have to order up the Power Punch, cause my Napa doesn't carry it...

In Texas, windshield banners and tint are legal as long as it does not come down more than 6 inches or below the AS1 line, whichever comes first.

I hate it when State Inspectors don't know the rules. I used to be one over a decade ago. They can cause you a lot of trouble when trouble isn't warranted. I can understand.... if they get caught passing a vehicle that shouldn't, it's the same as falsifying federal documents in Texas and they can go to prison and/or pay a fine up to $20k. That's why they should be very well read when it comes to the rules. The training class is very short and not sufficient.

When I got my Jeep back on the road, it "failed" because my wiper blades were not perfect, tire tread was "low" and choppy, third brake light didn't work, rear wiper didn't work and the blade was bad.

He passed it because he knew me, but said he wouldn't pass it next year. Honestly, the rear wiper does not matter in Texas, the 3rd brake light doesn't matter in Texas, the tires were within specs, and my front blades weren't that bad. I checked all before taking it in. He said if it was equipped with third brake light and rear wiper, they had to be in working order. Incorrect. BUT I suppose laws could've changed in the last 12 years since I did it...

denverd1
01-07-2017, 11:33 AM
last state to have tint laws as well. according to the last inspector I talked with

XJ Wheeler
01-07-2017, 04:34 PM
Jim, one of the members in moco jeeps just posted a pic the other day of a letter that was sent to him as an inspector and it said they had to start checking "high mounted stop lights".

I'm glad I have a place back home we took our trucks too that I just pull up, tell em I need an inspection, and I get a sticker. Although I do make sure to jeep my jeep and our trucks up to par. Don't really want to deal with a fix it ticket anyway.

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bluedragon436
01-07-2017, 10:56 PM
last state to have tint laws as well. according to the last inspector I talked with

Only tint laws we have here are, no tint on the windshield, and can't have either of the front windows tinted.. that's the only issue I have with my truck going trough inspection is the front window tint.. Going to be an issue for the XJ shortly too... going to get the XJ tinted correctly... as the tint that was on it when I first got it was a hack job done by the kid that owned it before me.. it is so unsafe to drive, and has a purple hue to it...

Brasscatz
01-08-2017, 03:47 PM
Only tint laws we have here are, no tint on the windshield, and can't have either of the front windows tinted.. that's the only issue I have with my truck going trough inspection is the front window tint.. Going to be an issue for the XJ shortly too... going to get the XJ tinted correctly... as the tint that was on it when I first got it was a hack job done by the kid that owned it before me.. it is so unsafe to drive, and has a purple hue to it...

One trick is to roll the windows down and pull the fuse (assuming you have power windows). You don't have to have windows to pass, and they can't fail what they can't test. You may find an inspector that refuses to inspect it, but they should

bluedragon436
01-08-2017, 04:06 PM
One trick is to roll the windows down and pull the fuse (assuming you have power windows). You don't have to have windows to pass, and they can't fail what they can't test. You may find an inspector that refuses to inspect it, but they should

Yeah they make you roll the windows up some... just to verify that there is no tint on them... they won't pass em if they don't come up any!!

Brasscatz
01-08-2017, 05:53 PM
Yeah they make you roll the windows up some... just to verify that there is no tint on them... they won't pass em if they don't come up any!!

man, guess we are lucky in the south!

bluedragon436
01-09-2017, 02:24 PM
man, guess we are lucky in the south!

Yeah you are... can't wait to move back down to SC.. Even more so.. wanted to register the XJ in SC this time around... but didn't plan far enough ahead, and didn't make sure to have the paperwork in the truck before heading out.. oh well.. will be better prepared before heading to SC the next time... will be taking the paperwork for the XJ and the Ram down there.. so I can register them both in SC.. so as to not have to mess with the BS inspection up here..

4.3LXJ
01-09-2017, 04:37 PM
And they say CA is bad

bluedragon436
01-09-2017, 08:22 PM
And they say CA is bad

It's random here... Funny thing is.. the same guy who failed it, has passed my Xj with the same exact banner for three years now... so whatever... what can you do?!!

denverd1
01-10-2017, 12:41 PM
beat the SNOT out of my knuckles trying to get them off. everything showed up, now I got to get busy. Leave for bridgeport in 10 days.

Had to cut drag link off the passenger knuckle. Somehow got the nut off, then misthreaded it, then beat on it free the link. I was out of patience by then and cut it off. This means new steering parts before I can drive it. Was planning new ZJ tie rod anyway, so no biggie.

bluedragon436
01-10-2017, 01:54 PM
beat the SNOT out of my knuckles trying to get them off. everything showed up, now I got to get busy. Leave for bridgeport in 10 days.

Had to cut drag link off the passenger knuckle. Somehow got the nut off, then misthreaded it, then beat on it free the link. I was out of patience by then and cut it off. This means new steering parts before I can drive it. Was planning new ZJ tie rod anyway, so no biggie.

When something breaks, or won't come free while replacing other parts.... it's not a bad thing... just a minor hit to the wallet.. and an excuse to upgrade!! LOL

denverd1
01-11-2017, 10:14 AM
made some serious progress last night. knuckles off, housing cleaned and plug holes are drilled. C's are prepped. gotta pull ball joints then I'm ready to finish sleeves. both fit well.
inner seals are out and their recesses cleaned up. although I noticed another seal between the axle seal and the diff. looks like the bearing fits up against it. pic, the orange o-ring looking thing.
http://www.eric-a-hall.com/gallery/albums/cherokee-d30/PCV_36MM_Tool.sized.jpg
I bought axle seals like this, nothing else came up on the "system" for dana 30 seals. https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sdh-36487.jpg?rep=False
I'm not worried about creating enough heat to melt those with what I'm doing. Although I thought about welding the tubes to the pumpkin. in that case, those would definitely get melted.

is there another seal I'm looking for? whats the orange thing? other than the silly outer seals that fit between C and knuckle, I'm not finding anything else for a dana 30 seal... any ideas?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/f0b212e9973318b923400ed1e4adc2c1.jpg

4.3LXJ
01-11-2017, 10:31 AM
I have never seen the orange one in the photo. The one you bought is the standard inner axle seal

prerunner1982
01-11-2017, 10:50 AM
The other day during the 2-3" of snow we had here in Oklahoma I noticed my back brakes weren't working. Heck of time to find out... So yesterday after work since it was nice (mid 60s) I decided to take a look at them and swap some better tires on the back in prep for this weekends weather (ice). Found a bad wheel cylinder. Thought I would go ahead and change the brakes while I was there. Got the pads noted for 9" brakes and they were about 2" less braking surface than the pads that were on there so I decided to forgo the pads and just fix the wheel cylinder.

She stops a little better now.

High today is supposed to be lower 70s... so we had snow one weekend, 70s mid week, and ice this coming weekend. Always have to be prepared for anything.

denverd1
01-11-2017, 10:50 AM
I have never seen the orange one in the photo. The one you bought is the standard inner axle seal

the one picture isn't mine (hands were too dirty to grab my phone) but its identical. guess I'll be careful with it as I have no idea where to find it or how to replace it.

still trying to wrap my head around our resident Jeep expert saying "I have never seen the orange one in the photo". Weird!!

Steve, thanks for you help

4.3LXJ
01-11-2017, 11:37 AM
All I can say is that my old Jeep doesn't have that seal in the front axle and all the older axles I have been into didn't have that either.

abebehrmann
01-11-2017, 11:55 AM
made some serious progress last night. knuckles off, housing cleaned and plug holes are drilled. C's are prepped. gotta pull ball joints then I'm ready to finish sleeves. both fit well.
inner seals are out and their recesses cleaned up. although I noticed another seal between the axle seal and the diff. looks like the bearing fits up against it. pic, the orange o-ring looking thing.
http://www.eric-a-hall.com/gallery/albums/cherokee-d30/PCV_36MM_Tool.sized.jpg
I bought axle seals like this, nothing else came up on the "system" for dana 30 seals. https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sdh-36487.jpg?rep=False
I'm not worried about creating enough heat to melt those with what I'm doing. Although I thought about welding the tubes to the pumpkin. in that case, those would definitely get melted.

is there another seal I'm looking for? whats the orange thing? other than the silly outer seals that fit between C and knuckle, I'm not finding anything else for a dana 30 seal... any ideas?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/f0b212e9973318b923400ed1e4adc2c1.jpg

My Dana 30 has the same orange seal. I damaged it a little bit when I was replacing my inner axle seals and did a little research. From what I've read it's just RTV that the factory put on there after pressing the axle tubes into the diff housing to prevent oil from seeping out.
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1061058

4.3LXJ
01-11-2017, 02:42 PM
That is kinda like what it looked like to me too

denverd1
01-12-2017, 09:55 AM
ball joint fun. judging by the virgin knuckles I took off that had never met a BFH, these are the original joints from 1998. got the press tool. PBB, BFH, heat. repeat 3x. still stuck!

Pinkyman
01-12-2017, 10:31 AM
I took the Xj out last night, I wanted to see what she could handle.... I found her limit. Apparently bumper height snow is a no go with open diffs. Luckily my wife was around and used the F150 to haul me out lol.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg.html)

https://youtu.be/DFQwPtlGsUU

denverd1
01-13-2017, 12:14 AM
I took the Xj out last night, I wanted to see what she could handle.... I found her limit. Apparently bumper height snow is a no go with open diffs. Luckily my wife was around and used the F150 to haul me out lol.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg.html)

https://youtu.be/DFQwPtlGsUU
that looks fun!! love how wife documents pulling on your Jeep with her truck!!

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denverd1
01-13-2017, 12:15 AM
Top driver ball joint is on the move. Might actually make the deadline. Need to be on the trailer a week from tomorrow at the latest. Nothing like a little pressure

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cj4a nz
01-13-2017, 12:24 AM
sound like time for a set of lockers , the wife has to agree and would be easier than pulling your struck XJ out all the time :rolleye0012:

denverd1
01-13-2017, 01:08 AM
sound like time for a set of lockers , the wife has to agree and would be easier than pulling your struck XJ out all the time :rolleye0012:
great idea

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4.3LXJ
01-13-2017, 11:04 AM
Top driver ball joint is on the move. Might actually make the deadline. Need to be on the trailer a week from tomorrow at the latest. Nothing like a little pressure

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That is when I do my best work and get the most done :rolleye0012:

denverd1
01-13-2017, 01:26 PM
That is when I do my best work and get the most done :rolleye0012:

same here. actually prefer it vs having plenty of time. I'll never get it done if I don't have a deadline

denverd1
01-13-2017, 07:03 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170114/af3218caa7f329bf6ad2a7a30510ea1d.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170114/1a4fe60e5f5d22f995cc9e78fc3f9c4d.jpg
Those things are toast. Bottoms were loose and had about 60° of movement side to side. Tops were weird. Kinda frozen but would still rotate. Long overdue
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TeXJ
01-14-2017, 03:56 PM
which ones did you go with to replace them? I put MOOG back into mine.

bluedragon436
01-14-2017, 04:18 PM
which ones did you go with to replace them? I put MOOG back into mine.

Curious to see what others are running.. as I'm going to order up new ones along with hubs, and u-joints... so once I get my re-gear done... I'll know the axles will be good... well except for the rear disc conversion that is and lockers...

denverd1
01-14-2017, 05:02 PM
which ones did you go with to replace them? I put MOOG back into mine.
Went to Dodo Zone and got the best ones they had. Duralast made in Taiwan [emoji35]. Probably overpaid for cheap parts but was short on time and they went back on just now. Sleeve is in as well

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TeXJ
01-14-2017, 05:35 PM
I had mine done like 3 years ago, I put maybe 700-1k miles a year on the jeep, maybe even less than that. I don't get to go wheeling like I wish I could. What I'm saying is I haven't really been able to abuse them.

denverd1
01-14-2017, 06:39 PM
I had mine done like 3 years ago, I put maybe 700-1k miles a year on the jeep, maybe even less than that. I don't get to go wheeling like I wish I could. What I'm saying is I haven't really been able to abuse them.
I'm honestly surprised these weren't wobbling all over. I put similar mileage on mine but happy have new joints.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170115/ef857b5c0c7955a73cecb74402bba2cd.jpg

I wouldn't call those welds. More like hot wire in a pile, strung out for a bit. But, sleeves are in.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170115/3ba48b334bbaca4d1f0a17830c44956e.jpg

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XJ Wheeler
01-15-2017, 01:50 AM
Pulled the front calipers off and warrantied them. For some reason oreilly's showed I had purchased and returned the past calipers twice. All I've done is bought the original replacements, returned cores, then warrantied them once before. If it wasn't for a really cool guy making sure it worked out I don't know what I would have done! Hopefully I can get them on soon.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170114/7bf468dc124674a12577b2e9d85bc687.jpg

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denverd1
01-17-2017, 09:28 AM
back's been acting up, but carrier is back in pumpkin, new ball joints in. today: knuckles, axles, etc should have tires back on later.

next: steering stuff. Spent an hour and 1/2 at Dodo Zone. They call a drag link a tie rod. so I said, "fine we'll start from the pitman arm and work our way down." so you need a driveshaft? "umm... no, I need steering parts." actually pulled out my phone, googled "XJ front end parts" showed him what we're looking for, still calling a drag link a tie rod. "So you need this tie rod remover?" No. "tie rood boot?" an hour later they finally bring out a tie rod. FOR A 4.0. :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: me: Well, put it all back, don't want any of it.

honestly feel sorry for those people. crappiest system on the planet.
Went home and :beer::beer: while I slowly put stuff back together. And fixed my cowl intake, it came loose on last ride. wasn't happy with layout so rerouted it.

denverd1
01-17-2017, 03:37 PM
Went to Oreillys. Same POS (piece of S#!T, not point of sale, but in the same spot) Z-net system. Found a gent that helped me piece it all together. Shouldn't have cut off that TRE.... BUT I'll have all new steering. I'll probably weld another TRE onto the stock one for a backup....

bluedragon436
01-17-2017, 05:21 PM
Went to Oreillys. Same POS (piece of S#!T, not point of sale, but in the same spot) Z-net system. Found a gent that helped me piece it all together. Shouldn't have cut off that TRE.... BUT I'll have all new steering. I'll probably weld another TRE onto the stock one for a backup....

I don't know why they make it so hard to get parts.. Every time I go in, especially if there something I'm trying to get from a different vehicle.. I'll research and find part numbers, so I walk in and give them part numbers... and they're like, what's the info for the vehicle???... and I'm like doesn't matter , I have the part numbers I need... so there's no research you need to do... It's always funny to see their faces and reactions...

4.3LXJ
01-17-2017, 06:32 PM
Hard to find a good counter person nowadays. All they know is a data base. Going through the same stuff with my D44 tie rod ends. Nobody knows what taper they are

denverd1
01-18-2017, 04:35 AM
the damn system looks like its from the 90s. I know you guys have seen it. Honestly, why can't we look at a diagram of the parts and click on the them to add to a cart. SOOO easy to fix. although we're talking millions of $$$ to upgrade thousands of stores but c'mon man. The data is out there, someone just needs to build it. for year of every make and model. Not a small task, but it should've been done a decade ago.

so you need a driveshaft??

my last boat was an '86 mastercraft ski boat with a 351W in it. For about a decade I'd walk into the store and tell them I had a 1982 F250 Van. Always got some interesting looks from folks.
P/n in hand or not, it was just easier for them to understand when I put it that way. Always made me laugh when I said it. Had that motor running right. Ported heads, big ole intake and a hopped up cam, loved driving that thing. It made its own music when it was running across the lake. got even better if it was pulling you. no cats pipes or mufflers on an inboard, throaty and LOUD.

update: been raining for 24 hours. I'd go work on it now if it weren't raining as I type this. Did get C's painted before rain came in yesterday.

XjKingz
01-18-2017, 08:45 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/51376eee48c855469459f2bdca09c84c.jpg


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denverd1
01-19-2017, 08:37 AM
Hard to find a good counter person nowadays. All they know is a data base. Going through the same stuff with my D44 tie rod ends. Nobody knows what taper they are

this. not too long ago a guy worked there that had a nova with a blown 468 in it. enjoyed catching up with him when I came in. he's been gone for 5 years at least. no more car guys working there.

Pinkyman
01-19-2017, 10:22 AM
that looks fun!! love how wife documents pulling on your Jeep with her truck!!

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Yeah, she enjoys making me look like an ass when she can lol. Im thinking this may be a good excuse for lockers and more lift..... Its worth a try at least :rolleye0012:

MattybPDX
01-19-2017, 10:29 AM
I took the Xj out last night, I wanted to see what she could handle.... I found her limit. Apparently bumper height snow is a no go with open diffs. Luckily my wife was around and used the F150 to haul me out lol.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201625_zpsihwt2ulk.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_201650_zpsyptx3wgm.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202005_zps9fgqhrqu.jpg.html)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/Rocketryan1/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Rocketryan1/media/20170111_202628_zpswzopeuqg.jpg.html)

https://youtu.be/DFQwPtlGsUU
We took ours put on the mountain and got stuck in an icy ditch. The radiator my wife didn't replace 8 years ago when the mechanic said it had a hole finally blew taking the head gasket with it.

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illuminator
01-19-2017, 09:48 PM
I installed the tuffy console insert I found on half off weekend at the jy. Thanks Jake for helping me line it up.
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z348/4jeep/C4EF8267-A337-49CA-91EE-8C944955F04A.jpg (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/4jeep/media/C4EF8267-A337-49CA-91EE-8C944955F04A.jpg.html)

denverd1
01-19-2017, 09:52 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/b089eaf2c500b02f6799d43d2fc6017d.jpg
Crunch time
oops, dust cover off axis a bit
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bluedragon436
01-19-2017, 10:23 PM
Yeah, she enjoys making me look like an ass when she can lol. Im thinking this may be a good excuse for lockers and more lift..... Its worth a try at least :rolleye0012:

Sounds like a good plan to me... At least you can stop by IRO and get your upgrade parts far cheaper than I can... Heck I spend more in shipping costs than most people spend for a lift kit... lol.. XJ looks good... and I'm sure it is still more than capable in the snow... every vehicle has it's limits... AT least you can change those limits, with a little bit of work.... and open up all kinds of fun possibilities..

denverd1
01-24-2017, 09:48 AM
We took ours put on the mountain and got stuck in an icy ditch. The radiator my wife didn't replace 8 years ago when the mechanic said it had a hole finally blew taking the head gasket with it.

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ouch. that got complicated quick!

denverd1
01-24-2017, 09:54 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/e678e7f00317f938e6a709e182a3c414.jpg
well, I got it all together and left for Ft. Worth Friday night. stayed with a friend, then drove to Bridgeport early Saturday. Met up with the crew and got busy putting it to the test. We had 8 Jeeps IIRC, with 5 of us running the hard stuff.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/c417a3468b63cca1c365bebab915ba59.jpg

stopped for lunch
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/8d56b1cc40f049f96b3c1f5013d4a788.jpg
Jeep impressed me once again. Having 2 lockers is just too damn fun. shot some vids, just gotta edit it all together. here's a quick one.
https://youtu.be/25XDqOQ-voI

of course, broke a few things. Tcase linkage went first, looks like I banged it on a rock. skids are moving up on the list.
also nearly ripped my front bumper off winching myself over a big rock. made it up the toughest part of the trail and got lazy on the last obstacle. high centered on cross member, with front diff and control arm stuck. so much for the idiot I paid to do some welding on front stiffeners and bumper tie ins... I'll be calling him later today. And doing my own welding from now on.

4.3LXJ
01-24-2017, 10:23 AM
I agree Denver, 2 lockers = 2 much fun :D

TeXJ
01-24-2017, 05:49 PM
nice vid! Work has been crazy! But I am now being onboarded and so hopefully will be able to have some money and more importantly time to be able to do fun things and not have to study all the time.

bluedragon436
01-25-2017, 10:54 PM
Re-organized the pile of axle and re-gear stuff... so that I'll be able to have everything together to make sure I don't miss anything when I load it all up... Got all the stuff needed (ball joints, axle u-joints, hubs, Alloy USA tube seals) to rebuild both the front and rear axles, re-gear both, Solid diff covers for both axles along with lubelocker gaskets.. and diff fluid... only two things needed left to complete the axles will be the Lokkas... which should be here anytime now.. the plan is once I get into a job again, I'd like to oder up the rear disc conversion.. but for now, I got brand new brakes back there... so will be fine with the current brake setup for now.. Put my winch (which just came in today) and all the Factor 55 components for it's install together as well... so it'll all be together for loading up to take over to a friends place, to get his help to install it and a few more lights..

denverd1
01-26-2017, 10:48 AM
Re-organized the pile of axle and re-gear stuff... so that I'll be able to have everything together to make sure I don't miss anything when I load it all up... Got all the stuff needed (ball joints, axle u-joints, hubs, Alloy USA tube seals) to rebuild both the front and rear axles, re-gear both, Solid diff covers for both axles along with lubelocker gaskets.. and diff fluid... only two things needed left to complete the axles will be the Lokkas... which should be here anytime now.. the plan is once I get into a job again, I'd like to oder up the rear disc conversion.. but for now, I got brand new brakes back there... so will be fine with the current brake setup for now.. Put my winch (which just came in today) and all the Factor 55 components for it's install together as well... so it'll all be together for loading up to take over to a friends place, to get his help to install it and a few more lights..

dude, you gotta post a pic of your parts... area. Can't be in a pile, there's too many!

bluedragon436
01-26-2017, 02:10 PM
dude, you gotta post a pic of your parts... area. Can't be in a pile, there's too many!

Luckily for me they're all still in the boxes they arrived to me in... Otherwise they'd be everywhere and I'd probably be missing something, or many somethings... :bang: So since they're all in boxes... my parts pile is not too awesome looking...

XJ Wheeler
01-27-2017, 11:45 PM
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well, I got it all together and left for Ft. Worth Friday night. stayed with a friend, then drove to Bridgeport early Saturday. Met up with the crew and got busy putting it to the test. We had 8 Jeeps IIRC, with 5 of us running the hard stuff.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/c417a3468b63cca1c365bebab915ba59.jpg

stopped for lunch
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/8d56b1cc40f049f96b3c1f5013d4a788.jpg
Jeep impressed me once again. Having 2 lockers is just too damn fun. shot some vids, just gotta edit it all together. here's a quick one.
https://youtu.be/25XDqOQ-voI

of course, broke a few things. Tcase linkage went first, looks like I banged it on a rock. skids are moving up on the list.
also nearly ripped my front bumper off winching myself over a big rock. made it up the toughest part of the trail and got lazy on the last obstacle. high centered on cross member, with front diff and control arm stuck. so much for the idiot I paid to do some welding on front stiffeners and bumper tie ins... I'll be calling him later today. And doing my own welding from now on.
That was fun to watch. Amazing what XJs can do, admittedly with a few parts...

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denverd1
01-29-2017, 04:34 PM
That was fun to watch. Amazing what XJs can do, admittedly with a few parts...

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it was a great trip, had fun getting the footage. need to work on putting it together. Got some great stuff

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XJ Wheeler
01-29-2017, 09:09 PM
it was a great trip, had fun getting the footage. need to work on putting it together. Got some great stuff

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Cool! Cant wait to see it! I've been wanting to do some videos just gotta learn to edit... lol

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denverd1
01-30-2017, 10:03 AM
Cool! Cant wait to see it! I've been wanting to do some videos just gotta learn to edit... lol

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I'm a professional at either leaving the damn thing on while the jeep is parked (riveting footage of people driving by and trees blowing in the wind) or forgetting to turn it on. nothing worse than finishing a kick ass trail and realizing i forgot to hit the button. That makes editing more like deleting the crap I didn't want and wondering where's the footage of the awesome trails I got up.

also need to work on getting more shot angles. dash mount looking over hood is getting old. I'd like to put a mount off the front bumper looking forward and maybe one off rear bumper for forward and back. time to order some mounts

4.3LXJ
01-30-2017, 10:28 AM
Denver, one thing I like to do is set up a camera on a really short tripod. Gives a good angle and makes the Jeep look bigger :D

denverd1
01-30-2017, 11:05 AM
I set it on a rock last time out!

I have a tiny tripod, getting gopro mounts to play nice with it is another issue. taking it all to Home D before I leave on Friday for trip

XJ Wheeler
01-30-2017, 11:18 AM
I'm a professional at either leaving the damn thing on while the jeep is parked (riveting footage of people driving by and trees blowing in the wind) or forgetting to turn it on. nothing worse than finishing a kick ass trail and realizing i forgot to hit the button. That makes editing more like deleting the crap I didn't want and wondering where's the footage of the awesome trails I got up.

also need to work on getting more shot angles. dash mount looking over hood is getting old. I'd like to put a mount off the front bumper looking forward and maybe one off rear bumper for forward and back. time to order some mounts

Lol, done that for sure!

I've looked around at a few angles and one of the best I've found is below the rear door handle. I've got the Gopro suction mount as well. Although I would like it to be extended away from the vehicle more for better view.

Sample

https://youtu.be/Eob2i7jBiAU

And if you've got a wide enough angle lense I've wanted to try this position wheeling but you'd have to be careful with the overhang. I tried it around the yard stuck to the front plate.

https://youtu.be/S6y5Y4uLgYc

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denverd1
01-31-2017, 01:52 PM
1st https://youtu.be/8hrlMteQnUc
2nd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XDqOQ-voI
3rd https://youtu.be/Te_pIbIO3go

4.3LXJ
01-31-2017, 07:06 PM
Nice vids Denver

denverd1
01-31-2017, 08:48 PM
Nice vids Denver
Thank you sir. Got a little more footage to look through.

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bluedragon436
02-01-2017, 01:35 PM
I just need to get a Go-pro in the first place to start being able to do vids like these... As far as what I've done to my Jeep... yesterday, I pulled the "new" rear bumper (the one I waited for for almost 2 years and finally got).. drilled out the mountain bolt holes for the flush mounted LED lights.. the company did the square cut outs for the lights, but not the mounting bolt holes.. not sure what sense that made... but anyways.. drilled out all the mounting bolt hole for the lights... and got everything else ready to get up with my powdercoater to get it all coated and ready for install.. I attempted to install my new winch.. but go figure just my luck... it won't fit on my winch bumper... the motor is just a tad bit too long.. not by much.. Going to get up with a friend of mine and see if we can mange to get it just right, as I couldn't finagle the winch and try putting the bolts in at the same time.. or very slightly massage the stinger with a little bit of a dimple in (doesn't even need much at all)..

denverd1
02-02-2017, 08:37 AM
I just need to get a Go-pro in the first place to start being able to do vids like these... As far as what I've done to my Jeep... yesterday, I pulled the "new" rear bumper (the one I waited for for almost 2 years and finally got).. drilled out the mountain bolt holes for the flush mounted LED lights.. the company did the square cut outs for the lights, but not the mounting bolt holes.. not sure what sense that made... but anyways.. drilled out all the mounting bolt hole for the lights... and got everything else ready to get up with my powdercoater to get it all coated and ready for install.. I attempted to install my new winch.. but go figure just my luck... it won't fit on my winch bumper... the motor is just a tad bit too long.. not by much.. Going to get up with a friend of mine and see if we can mange to get it just right, as I couldn't finagle the winch and try putting the bolts in at the same time.. or very slightly massage the stinger with a little bit of a dimple in (doesn't even need much at all)..
what lights are you using? I want to do this too.
think you could cut a bit out and make it work?
got pics of this elusive bumper?

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bluedragon436
02-02-2017, 11:37 PM
what lights are you using? I want to do this too.
think you could cut a bit out and make it work?
got pics of this elusive bumper?

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The lights came with the bumper, they are from DB Link (Lux Performance).. they aren't the greatest/most expensive models.. but they aren't too bad.. and they came with the bumper purchase.. I'll get pics of the bumper here shortly.. Now that I finally got all the parts for it (better late then never..)..

Trying not to cut the stinger if I can help it... figure it may not be the most BA bumper.. but any protection is helpful.. Thinking doing a slight dent in the stinger for the motor.. might work nicely.. can't hurt to try..

oderdene
02-05-2017, 05:11 PM
Replaced my motor mounts (rustys one with lca rubber bushing) but feel more vibration out there. Seems no misfire while looking and hearing running engine, but inside - no good. Mounts raised an engine almost an inch relative to old shot poly bushing. Trans mount replaced last fall :(

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nickxj94
02-05-2017, 09:55 PM
Well..... I bought another XJ

Got this 99 limited 4x4 for my daughter. She loves Cherokees like me. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/e8f966094d39cc3d219304bcfa78fd96.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/5ae456c499c265f406f2ee0bf9914662.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/417978a9c0cb89ca1fc8eb0cf2a4b864.jpg

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nickxj94
02-05-2017, 09:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/f52e3b97ddb7deb71ee310d9731c8e84.jpg picked up some different AXLES, d30 with a Spartan locker, rear 8.25 welded. Installing the d30 in my Two door XJ. Mine has bent axle tube.

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4.3LXJ
02-06-2017, 10:31 AM
Sounds like you have been busy Nick. Getting one for the wife too? :D

bluedragon436
02-06-2017, 09:55 PM
Well..... I bought another XJ

Got this 99 limited 4x4 for my daughter. She loves Cherokees like me. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/e8f966094d39cc3d219304bcfa78fd96.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/5ae456c499c265f406f2ee0bf9914662.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170206/417978a9c0cb89ca1fc8eb0cf2a4b864.jpg

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That's awesome... What's the plans for her rig build??!! I can't wait until my little one gets older (got a bit on that one, unfortunately) she will like the Cherokee as well... or at least a Jeep (not that current excuse for one, either)...

Pinkyman
02-09-2017, 08:17 AM
That's awesome... What's the plans for her rig build??!! I can't wait until my little one gets older (got a bit on that one, unfortunately) she will like the Cherokee as well... or at least a Jeep (not that current excuse for one, either)...

Same here..... Its funny, my first car was a 1984 Plymouth Horizon. When i got my license, it was a 13 year old car. If the same goes for my son, and he gets a car that is 13 years old when he gets his license, his first car will be a 2019......... Man if that doesnt make me feel old :smiley-scared003:

bluedragon436
02-09-2017, 12:12 PM
Same here..... Its funny, my first car was a 1984 Plymouth Horizon. When i got my license, it was a 13 year old car. If the same goes for my son, and he gets a car that is 13 years old when he gets his license, his first car will be a 2019......... Man if that doesnt make me feel old :smiley-scared003:

Mine will be roughly 2017 for a 13 yo car... lol Guess I'll be getting her a Ram then... or maybe a JKU... but certainly won't be a Cherokee (current model anyways)... lol

Since it's uber cold and crazy windy... not getting anything I want to get done to my Jeep today.. Got my drivers side windshield wiper arm back on after painting them back up, to get rid of the worn out look it had going... had to do some touch up on the passenger side arm, or would have put it on too.. Hoping it either warms up or at least the wind goes away either today or tomorrow, so I can hopefully get my winch in, so I'll be able to spool the line on it Saturday while doing land mx on Jeep club's property... and be able to use it there as well..

XJ Ezra
02-09-2017, 03:18 PM
I'm having idling issues with my xj When I come to a stop it always wants to dip to 500rpm or lower. In the morning when it's below 20 degrees it doesn't want to idle it just want to shut off if I let up off of the gas pedal. Anyone have this problem anyone have a solution?


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XJ Ezra
02-09-2017, 03:18 PM
I'm having idling issues with my xj When I come to a stop it always wants to dip to 500rpm or lower. In the morning when it's below 20 degrees it doesn't want to idle it just want to shut off if I let up off of the gas pedal. Anyone have this problem anyone have a solution?


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4.3LXJ
02-09-2017, 03:47 PM
Ezra, there are two things to look at. First the idle air control. They can get dirty and not function like they should. Easy to remove and clean. Second you might have a problem with the coolant temp sensor. It helps control the mixture as the engine warms. But first, check that IAC

Pinkyman
02-09-2017, 04:05 PM
Ezra, there are two things to look at. First the idle air control. They can get dirty and not function like they should. Easy to remove and clean. Second you might have a problem with the coolant temp sensor. It helps control the mixture as the engine warms. But first, check that IAC

I have had both of these issues (go figure lol). My IAC needed a good cleaning, and after that it would not run. I had to disconnect the battery for a while to let it re-learn.

I would also check the coolant temp sensor and connector as stated above. Mine popped off once when i was doing a tune up, and it ran like ass afterwords until i found it and gave it a good solid connection.

abebehrmann
02-09-2017, 05:14 PM
I'm having idling issues with my xj When I come to a stop it always wants to dip to 500rpm or lower. In the morning when it's below 20 degrees it doesn't want to idle it just want to shut off if I let up off of the gas pedal. Anyone have this problem anyone have a solution?


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I'll third the suggestion of the Idle Air Controller. Had the same problem with our TJ (only I lived in Florida at the time so it never saw temps below 40F). New IAC made it idle like new.

Dwskevin
02-09-2017, 06:44 PM
Replaced my motor mounts (rustys one with lca rubber bushing) but feel more vibration out there. Seems no misfire while looking and hearing running engine, but inside - no good. Mounts raised an engine almost an inch relative to old shot poly bushing. Trans mount replaced last fall :(

@Tapatalk ;-)
I just replaced my motor mounts with Brown Dog with the rubber bushings. I have a noticeable vibration at idle but I don't feel the vibration on the road. I will see if I get used to it.

nickxj94
02-09-2017, 06:49 PM
Sounds like you have been busy Nick. Getting one for the wife too? :D
I bought her a 2016 Jeep Patriot last year.

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nickxj94
02-09-2017, 06:51 PM
That's awesome... What's the plans for her rig build??!! I can't wait until my little one gets older (got a bit on that one, unfortunately) she will like the Cherokee as well... or at least a Jeep (not that current excuse for one, either)...
It's going to remain stock.
Unless she gets a job and pays for the lift her self. Lol



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nickxj94
02-09-2017, 07:01 PM
Did a lot of work to the 99 limited.
Man this thing is rough, I wished I had passed on it,
Anyway It had a bad miss when it was delivered, (bought sight unseen,went off a friends word it was a good Jeep) it was not....
So I tuned it up, plugs, wires,cap rotor, change oil, air filter. Runs way better, but still sluggish.
Checked back pressure on exhaust. Converter was stopped up.
So deleted it and the stock muffler, installed new pipe and a Magnaflow muffler. Runs really damn good now. I see the D35 breaking soon....
Cleaned it up found crack in frame at steering box, welded it up and plated it. Pass side has been hit hard one time. Frame is crinkled a little bit. Got it aligned put a couple tires on the front. Fixed some issues with lights. Still have to replace the motor mounts.
Painted the ugly snowflake wheels black. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/48669864dbe0df08731a544a861788fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/7c381c50596a61c6d011c11c0c0a9d4b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/d0ae88a23003f6481b7b161dcb43ca44.jpg

Still needs some front end parts, rear end howls. So will probably be slapping my spare 8.25 under it. Gotta find a drive shaft. That's all for now.


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bluedragon436
02-09-2017, 08:11 PM
Did a lot of work to the 99 limited.
Man this thing is rough, I wished I had passed on it,
Anyway It had a bad miss when it was delivered, (bought sight unseen,went off a friends word it was a good Jeep) it was not....
So I tuned it up, plugs, wires,cap rotor, change oil, air filter. Runs way better, but still sluggish.
Checked back pressure on exhaust. Converter was stopped up.
So deleted it and the stock muffler, installed new pipe and a Magnaflow muffler. Runs really damn good now. I see the D35 breaking soon....
Cleaned it up found crack in frame at steering box, welded it up and plated it. Pass side has been hit hard one time. Frame is crinkled a little bit. Got it aligned put a couple tires on the front. Fixed some issues with lights. Still have to replace the motor mounts.
Painted the ugly snowflake wheels black. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/48669864dbe0df08731a544a861788fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/7c381c50596a61c6d011c11c0c0a9d4b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/d0ae88a23003f6481b7b161dcb43ca44.jpg

Still needs some front end parts, rear end howls. So will probably be slapping my spare 8.25 under it. Gotta find a drive shaft. That's all for now.


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Looks pretty clean... Glad you got it running... if you already have howling going on... I would say go ahead and replace the D35 with the 8.25 if you already have a spare one or can get a spare one on the cheap... how did the front tires look, are they worn fairly even.... just wondering if the crankily/cracks might cause any uneven wear on the front tires...

nickxj94
02-09-2017, 08:39 PM
I already have a 8.25 sitting in the garage.

The tires where showing steel on edges. Toe was out, rear axle is off center a bit so it will dog track going down the road.

It's got a 50 foot paint job.
Looks good from 50 feet away. It's got a lot of brush scratches

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TunzofunXJ99
02-12-2017, 11:00 AM
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Painting engine par 1.

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bluedragon436
02-13-2017, 03:13 PM
Well not today.. But Friday evening I finished installing the winch after having to massage the stinger bit to clear the motor a bit and a little for the control box.. then Saturday after doing land maintenance @ the local Jeep club's property... got the line installed after hooking it up to a friends JK to put tension on the line while spooling it in.. after doing the same to his line..

nickxj94
02-13-2017, 08:09 PM
Did a axle swap this weekend. D30 with a Spartan locker. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/1f79874975714a9a852618a4939b9e59.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/295c659457923dece2643e6b6a0a2f45.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/661f9fce56863987a3cfe0ed1ec1c490.jpg

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4.3LXJ
02-13-2017, 08:19 PM
:congrats:

jdsilvaca
02-13-2017, 11:56 PM
Well I cut out my wheel wells some more, finally got my Bushwacker flares installed. Put on my 35x12.50x15 wheels and tires, and the almighty Death Wobble has returned. I was running 1.50 inch wheel spacers with my stock 15 inch wheels on 33's, and there was no issue. My new wheels have better back spacing, so I took the wheel spacers off. That just moved the death wobble up to a higher MPH before it kicks in. I'm taking it to the alignment shop this Saturday to see what they say. When is a drop-pitman-arm needed? I'm running 4.5 inches of lift. I was thinking about getting one.

bluedragon436
02-14-2017, 12:00 AM
Well I cut out my wheel wells some more, finally got my Bushwacker flares installed. Put on my 35x12.50x15 wheels and tires, and the almighty Death Wobble has returned. I was running 1.50 inch wheel spacers with my stock 15 inch wheels on 33's, and there was no issue. My new wheels have better back spacing, so I took the wheel spacers off. That just moved the death wobble up to a higher MPH before it kicks in. I'm taking it to the alignment shop this Saturday to see what they say. When is a drop-pitman-arm needed? I'm running 4.5 inches of lift. I was thinking about getting one.

I'd say check your ball joints, track bar bushings/tie rod end, hubs and control arm bushings... only thing I can think since the only thing you changed was the spacers and the tires... have someone else other than whoever balanced the tires check the balance to make sure... and fi they're still good.. then Id say check the hubs and ball joints since they are there @ the wheel.. And as far as pitman arms... take a look at how the drag link and the track bar are in relation to each other... so long as they are in line with each other, as far as the angle and such... then should be good... and long as you don't have any kind of dumpster or odd steering..

bluedragon436
02-14-2017, 12:03 AM
Got my Lokka's in hand today.. took a few extra days to get here... as I guess Aussie/Lokka had some kind of snafu @ their factory.. but guess it's been taken care of.. can't wait to get an appointment in @ the shop to have the axles rebuilt, the gears installed and the Lokka's since it'll all be torn apart and open... and to keep warranty on the install of the gears..

Hum Wee JR
02-14-2017, 12:47 AM
Sunday i finally changed the leaky wheel cylinder on my yj. Didn't have anybody to help bleed the brake fluid. Next weekend possibly

XJ Wheeler
02-14-2017, 02:45 AM
Well I cut out my wheel wells some more, finally got my Bushwacker flares installed. Put on my 35x12.50x15 wheels and tires, and the almighty Death Wobble has returned. I was running 1.50 inch wheel spacers with my stock 15 inch wheels on 33's, and there was no issue. My new wheels have better back spacing, so I took the wheel spacers off. That just moved the death wobble up to a higher MPH before it kicks in. I'm taking it to the alignment shop this Saturday to see what they say. When is a drop-pitman-arm needed? I'm running 4.5 inches of lift. I was thinking about getting one.
Should be fine with 4.5". That's only really necessary once you get into the 6"+ range. And to ease your mind I'm at 5" front with no issues on the stocker.

Nice job going 35s on 4.5"!

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denverd1
02-14-2017, 06:53 AM
I've got a dropped pitman on mine at 4.5" angles look better IMO

Mudderoy
02-14-2017, 06:56 AM
I just replaced my motor mounts with Brown Dog with the rubber bushings. I have a noticeable vibration at idle but I don't feel the vibration on the road. I will see if I get used to it.

Mine vibrates at idle and more so with the A/C on.

4.3LXJ
02-14-2017, 10:17 AM
When is a drop-pitman-arm needed? I'm running 4.5 inches of lift. I was thinking about getting one.

I would hold off on that drop pitman arm, unless your lift kit dropped the frame end of your track bar down. If it did, not having a drop pitman arm would make it worse. But if not, dropping the drag link would make your death wobble worse.

abebehrmann
02-14-2017, 10:30 AM
Well I cut out my wheel wells some more, finally got my Bushwacker flares installed. Put on my 35x12.50x15 wheels and tires, and the almighty Death Wobble has returned. I was running 1.50 inch wheel spacers with my stock 15 inch wheels on 33's, and there was no issue. My new wheels have better back spacing, so I took the wheel spacers off. That just moved the death wobble up to a higher MPH before it kicks in. I'm taking it to the alignment shop this Saturday to see what they say. When is a drop-pitman-arm needed? I'm running 4.5 inches of lift. I was thinking about getting one.

Are the tires and wheels new and have they been balanced recently?

If they're used, I'd be wondering if they're out of round or maybe not balanced properly.


Like Steve said, the most important part is having the drag-link and track-bar the same length and parallel so you don't get any bumpsteer. As I understand it, you should only need the drop-pitman-arm if you also moved the track-bar.

Pinkyman
02-17-2017, 08:09 AM
Mine vibrates at idle and more so with the A/C on.

I have the same issue. Ive been trying to correct it forever, but it seems to be the nature of the beast.

jdsilvaca
02-18-2017, 10:25 AM
Thank you. I'm going to the alignment shop today. I will have them check out the wheels too. Will post later today what the results are. I also ordered up 1 ton OTK steering from JCR. I figured it was time, especially since I'm on 35's now. Steering box upgrade coming too.

jdsilvaca
02-19-2017, 10:22 AM
Ok, so my wheels were out of balance and it did need an alignment. Turns out the Rubicon Express Track Bar I installed has a bad end. It's the end that mounts to the frame on the driver side. The bar has been on my XJ for about 2 years. It does drive better, I got up to 70 before the death wobble kicked in. Hopefully I can get a new end for my bar tomorrow. Stay tuned. Thank you for all of the help guys.

Mudderoy
02-19-2017, 12:27 PM
I have the same issue. Ive been trying to correct it forever, but it seems to be the nature of the beast.

I did an interview with Tim of Brown Dog a few years back and I remember him saying something about adjusting how tight the bolts were that holds the mount to the block (I think) to get rid of it.

I need to go back and listen to the episode. I think it's this one...

http://www.jeeptalkshow.com/rb-25-tim-shideler-brown-dog-industries/

abebehrmann
02-20-2017, 10:00 AM
I did an interview with Tim of Brown Dog a few years back and I remember him saying something about adjusting how tight the bolts were that holds the mount to the block (I think) to get rid of it.

I need to go back and listen to the episode. I think it's this one...

http://www.jeeptalkshow.com/rb-25-tim-shideler-brown-dog-industries/

Yeah, the directions say you want the through-bolts snug but not super tight. They're lock nuts, so they shouldn't back off, but I think due to the solid construction they're always going to transmit more vibrations than the stock ones especially if you went with the polyurethane bushings. I also think I remember that if you don't loosen the trans mount bolts before installing the Brown Dog Motor mounts that you're going to have more vibrations too.

prerunner1982
02-21-2017, 09:12 AM
cleaned the NSS. Hardest part was getting the zip ties off so I could get the harness out.

bluedragon436
02-21-2017, 11:08 AM
cleaned the NSS. Hardest part was getting the zip ties off so I could get the harness out.

The zip ties and getting it off the trans without breaking the hell out of it, was my two hard parts when I did the NSS cleaning on my XJ's.. I cracked the hell out of the housing on the one from my 97.. so I canned parts from my 89 that I had sitting in the storage unit, that was down for whatever reason it decided not to start (prior to the NSS removal).. and got the 97 all cleaned up and ready to go.. and only put in new zip tie to keep it from touching the exhaust.. and placed it where I can get to it easier the next time..

nickxj94
02-21-2017, 10:28 PM
The zip ties and getting it off the trans without breaking the hell out of it, was my two hard parts when I did the NSS cleaning on my XJ's.. I cracked the hell out of the housing on the one from my 97.. so I canned parts from my 89 that I had sitting in the storage unit, that was down for whatever reason it decided not to start (prior to the NSS removal).. and got the 97 all cleaned up and ready to go.. and only put in new zip tie to keep it from touching the exhaust.. and placed it where I can get to it easier the next time..
Lol I've broken 3 used ones when I attempted to replace mine. . .
I finally broke down and bought a brand new one.

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bluedragon436
02-22-2017, 12:29 AM
Lol I've broken 3 used ones when I attempted to replace mine. . .
I finally broke down and bought a brand new one.

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Yeah looking at the way the inside of my current NSS looked... will probably pick up a new one, as well as another new CPS to carry in my parts/tool box... just in case the need arises.. Guess I should make sure I have the proper extensions/swivel in case of the need for a CPS change arises away from home.. big/real toolbox...

Brasscatz
02-26-2017, 03:58 PM
Picked this bad boy up for free. Now I need to figure out mounting lol

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4.3LXJ
02-26-2017, 04:04 PM
:thumbsup:

XJ Wheeler
02-27-2017, 11:36 AM
Sweet! Hanson has some expensive stuff!

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Brasscatz
02-27-2017, 05:55 PM
Sweet! Hanson has some expensive stuff!

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Now if only I can get the wife to stop singing "oooom-bop" every time she sees it lol

XJ Wheeler
02-27-2017, 05:59 PM
Now if only I can get the wife to stop singing "oooom-bop" every time she sees it lol
Yeah, that could get annoying! [emoji14]

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denverd1
02-28-2017, 09:40 AM
Picked this bad boy up for free. Now I need to figure out mounting lol

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gonna be interesting on that bumper

mikjon1
03-03-2017, 06:33 PM
Waxed the wife's Jeep Cherokee Sahara today.

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Pookapotamus
03-03-2017, 06:41 PM
Shiney!!!! Mine next?


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4.3LXJ
03-03-2017, 06:50 PM
Hmmmm, black and yellow. Tonka toy or Caterpillar?

mikjon1
03-03-2017, 07:08 PM
Shiney!!!! Mine next?


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A couple a stiff finger joints later and you can have er lookin pretty nice! ; )


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Pookapotamus
03-03-2017, 09:08 PM
A couple a stiff finger joints later and you can have er lookin pretty nice! ; )


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jdsilvaca
03-04-2017, 02:08 PM
Finishing up my OTK steering upgrade this weekend. Was too cold to paint last weekend and the powder coat shop was closed.

jdsilvaca
03-04-2017, 02:10 PM
I have those same mounts. I have the poly bushings. I don't have a lot of vibration. Been in my jeep for about 2 years now, maybe 3. Barley notice it. Follow the bolt tightening specs, you should be good

mikjon1
03-05-2017, 02:12 PM
Polished the wife's the other day and just got done polishing mine. Talk about some tired fingers! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/f34cc753991df5285e1fa8b4215307ec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/7b17629e26303fbd28fcfb512bef6c87.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170305/909f8577ac295956c7c944a391fb04a9.jpg


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prcjeep
03-06-2017, 04:35 AM
Picked this bad boy up for free. Now I need to figure out mounting lol

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A) when where did you get that bumper that's on there

B) Free is awesome!

C) I miss my Jeeps

bluedragon436
03-06-2017, 03:22 PM
Drove it.. Started getting everything together to apply some sound deadening material to the roof, as well as getting everything together to do the headliner (that I pulled over two years ago to replace it).. but am now wanting to find a headliner board that will have a rear 97+ style rear dome light instead of the 96- version my 97 came with.. as well as wouldn't mind finding one with a built in speaker pod, but will work with a standard one and make use of my separate speaker pod.. would just like to have the nicer better 97+ style dome light.. just haven't had time while I was in the AF to work on it, since it wasn't a priority like everything else on the Jeep is/has been..

OrangeXJ
03-06-2017, 04:19 PM
James, did I miss something your not in the AF anymore?

bluedragon436
03-06-2017, 11:28 PM
James, did I miss something your not in the AF anymore?

Unfortunately not.. :patriot:... They decided they didn't require my services any longer... Kind of got f**ked on it too.. thanks to people not doing their jobs, as well as my supervision not doing theirs, or wanting to put in any effort to help... So looking at getting my A&P lisc. possibly finishing my BS degree (not like I can find a job to make use of it once I get it anyways).. and looking for work.. Hoping to move back down south a bit, to either NC, SC or GA once my GF completes her degree (May/June).. so have been looking for something more permanent career wise down that way.. as well as looking to get into the reserves so that I can continue to work on my retirement..

4.3LXJ
03-07-2017, 12:23 AM
Sorry to hear that James. Had something similar happen to me in the fire service. Good luck and God Speed

OrangeXJ
03-07-2017, 07:33 AM
WOW sorry to hear that James. I didn't know the military did "lay offs"

bluedragon436
03-07-2017, 01:48 PM
Sorry to hear that James. Had something similar happen to me in the fire service. Good luck and God Speed

Eh, what can you do?!!


WOW sorry to hear that James. I didn't know the military did "lay offs"

Well they changed the higher tenure rules about two years back or so, that if you don't make certain ranks by certain times in your career, you're out... which to me is stupid to a point, because now you're basically ditching your experience and knowledge... just cause someone is book smarts and can pass the tests, doesn't mean they know squat about the job (and they usually don't as far as I've witnessed in the AF)... I tried my best.. and came very close to making it, was #7 non selected for my next rank.. so am pretty happy with that.. but they did a deal for up to 2 year extension... but the folks that handle personnel on my base, failed to send all the requirements to my supervision, and I did everything following what they did... but when I went to turn it all in, they were like oh you missed the deadline by 20 days.... I was like, what deadline... and they were like oh, right here in this reg., it states........ :smiley-talk024:.....:bang::bang:... so I went back and looked at everything they had sent out... and no where in any of that did it stay anything about this deadline... so I went and talked to my first shirt and he said he was going to try and see what he could do... but then I heard nothing else from him.. so I contacted the personnel office again and was informed that my shirt had in fact called the day I talked to him... but hadn't called since... and that if he had, or had elevated it to my commander they could have gotten the extension for me... so basically because these f**ktards don't want to do their jobs, I get f**ked... but nothing I can do about it, other than let the past be the past, and try and pursue other avenues... to 1 hopefully keep working towards my retirement that I've already put 15 hard years in on... and keep working in the aviation field that I do love working with..

bluedragon436
03-07-2017, 01:51 PM
Cleaned all the old headliner fabric and foam off the headliner board I removed from the XJ like two maybe three years ago, right after purchasing the XJ and I got hit in the head with the fabric, and I was like, screw this... lol.. since I now am down and @ home long enough to work on stuff like that.. Got to do some more research, as I was told by someone who has done quite a few headliners on XJ's, that I need to remove the next layer off the headliner board, in order for it to all work correctly, but nothing I've read online says that.. so guess I'll keep researching as I continue to figure out what color/design fabric I want to go with..

denverd1
03-07-2017, 02:00 PM
Eh, what can you do?!!



Well they changed the higher tenure rules about two years back or so, that if you don't make certain ranks by certain times in your career, you're out... which to me is stupid to a point, because now you're basically ditching your experience and knowledge... just cause someone is book smarts and can pass the tests, doesn't mean they know squat about the job (and they usually don't as far as I've witnessed in the AF)... I tried my best.. and came very close to making it, was #7 non selected for my next rank.. so am pretty happy with that.. but they did a deal for up to 2 year extension... but the folks that handle personnel on my base, failed to send all the requirements to my supervision, and I did everything following what they did... but when I went to turn it all in, they were like oh you missed the deadline by 20 days.... I was like, what deadline... and they were like oh, right here in this reg., it states........ :smiley-talk024:.....:bang::bang:... so I went back and looked at everything they had sent out... and no where in any of that did it stay anything about this deadline... so I went and talked to my first shirt and he said he was going to try and see what he could do... but then I heard nothing else from him.. so I contacted the personnel office again and was informed that my shirt had in fact called the day I talked to him... but hadn't called since... and that if he had, or had elevated it to my commander they could have gotten the extension for me... so basically because these f**ktards don't want to do their jobs, I get f**ked... but nothing I can do about it, other than let the past be the past, and try and pursue other avenues... to 1 hopefully keep working towards my retirement that I've already put 15 hard years in on... and keep working in the aviation field that I do love working with..

shit bro, thats not cool. I agree, letting the experienced guys out the door is BIG mistake. then the circle jerk on regs???? you're better off elsewhere

bluedragon436
03-07-2017, 02:09 PM
shit bro, thats not cool. I agree, letting the experienced guys out the door is BIG mistake. then the circle jerk on regs???? you're better off elsewhere

Yeah, kind of my thinking honestly... Everyone was like you should contact the IG and fight to get back in... I was like why would I want to continue to bust my ass for no recognition when I do, and continual a** f**king?!! When I can go elsewhere and do it part time with the reserves or ANG and then either go to school / go find employment elsewhere for full time, or I can go reserves/ANG and only deal with the military side of it 1 weekend a month 2 weeks a year... and then do the rest of the time as a civilian... where I can tell MSgt/TSgt Douche F**k to go F**K himself... lol....

4.3LXJ
03-07-2017, 04:09 PM
We had a similar thing happen in the Coast Guard. Fortunately it didn't affect me at the time. But when I was a fire fighter I ended up loosing my job because somebody didn't file my EMT recertification. Go figure

Mudderoy
03-07-2017, 05:21 PM
Replaced cracked exhaust manifold, again... Factory, replacement and now on a new one.

TeXJ
03-08-2017, 01:22 PM
I need change mine out, which are you going with now? exhaust header.

bluedragon436
03-08-2017, 01:31 PM
We had a similar thing happen in the Coast Guard. Fortunately it didn't affect me at the time. But when I was a fire fighter I ended up loosing my job because somebody didn't file my EMT recertification. Go figure

And it sucks, because someone dropped the ball, but they don't get held accountable... but you get f**ked... even though you did the right thing(s)...

4.3LXJ
03-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Yup, that is the way the government red tape is

Mudderoy
03-08-2017, 05:00 PM
10114

10115

TeXJ
03-08-2017, 07:00 PM
Can you just have it rewelded?

IntrepidCherokee
03-09-2017, 01:43 AM
Where do I start.
The plan:
Replace radiator, clutch fan and e-fan.
Deep clean the a/c condenser.

Parts bought:
CSF 3-row 2671 (replacing busted OEM)
E-fan
HD clutch fan P#: 272310

Removed rad. Discovered I needed to repair a crimped trans cooler "hot line" and damaged return trans line. Also, both power steering hoses were leaking, so those needed to be replaced. While taking the power steering hoses off, the return line was seized to the reservoir and ended up snapping off. The entire pump, including the reservoir was only $15 more so why not just replace the whole thing, right?

I went to give the condenser a good cleaning and discovered that it was shot. Completely clogged, fins deteriorating and found a few pin-hole punctures. So, I guess that had to be replaced.

Ok, so I got all that fixed and put into place despite the return trans line wrestling match to get it back in and I place.
I start to feed the coolant and water into the system while the jeep was running, then I start to feel a mist splashing my face and immediately think "aw f**k"
So, flashback. One of the the brackets that screws the shroud for the clutch fan into the frame broke off. My grandpa said , no worries, he'll fix it later. His strategy was to drill 2 holes into the bracket and two holes into the shrouded and connect them with two zip ties. He decided to do the drilling once I had gotten everything back together and it seems his drill bit dinged one of the rad tubes. So, now, I gotta pull the thing out and get it welded. Hopefully, I'll have this beast back on the road by Monday. Hope you all had better luck today.

End parts list:
Rad
Clutch fan
E-fan
2 power steering lines
Power stering pump/reservoir
A/c condenser
Repairs on 2 tranny lines
Weld repair of a rad that hasn't been used yet
Thermostat
Thermostat housing (noticed the one on there was deteriorating)

"Anything my baby needs, my baby gets"

bluedragon436
03-09-2017, 08:27 AM
Can you just have it rewelded?

I've been reading online, and it says usually when folks weld, or have their headers professionally welded to repair cracks like that, they just recrack due to the temperament of the metal being compromised by the welding... I've been looking at Banks headers, at least that way if it cracks, can send it back in and have it replaced under warranty... and have heard some folks with the same setup and it sounded pretty nice.. I just hate the cost associated with that purchase... especially since I already have to replace the "downpipe" due to the O2 sensor being seized into it... and the cat is not purring too well... I think it's a bit clogged... and it's rusted as well... so going to be a complete new exhaust system from front to exhaust tip.. so should have a nice sound to it, and some extra power!!

4.3LXJ
03-09-2017, 01:50 PM
Where do I start.

Ok, so I got all that fixed and put into place despite the return trans line wrestling match to get it back in and I place.
I start to feed the coolant and water into the system while the jeep was running, then I start to feel a mist splashing my face and immediately think "aw f**k"
So, flashback. One of the the brackets that screws the shroud for the clutch fan into the frame broke off. My grandpa said , no worries, he'll fix it later. His strategy was to drill 2 holes into the bracket and two holes into the shrouded and connect them with two zip ties. He decided to do the drilling once I had gotten everything back together and it seems his drill bit dinged one of the rad tubes. So, now, I gotta pull the thing out and get it welded. Hopefully, I'll have this beast back on the road by Monday. Hope you all had better luck today.



Is that a brass or aluminum radiator? I doubt they will fix an aluminum one.

IntrepidCherokee
03-09-2017, 02:13 PM
Is that a brass or aluminum radiator? I doubt they will fix an aluminum one.



Brass. Easy fix luckily. Pressure tested in this morning and fortunately it's only the top tube in the back 3rd row. It's being welded as we speak. Will pressure test when finished and it there is any problems with the weld I'll just delete that row. Considering there are about 90 tubes in total, I figured losing 1/90th of my rads cooling capacity isn't the worst thing in the world.


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4.3LXJ
03-09-2017, 03:44 PM
Not the worst thing, but these XJs need all the cooling they can get

mcmf raven
03-11-2017, 04:45 AM
Just did a 1ton tie rod upgrade. So much better then the old reverse y.

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bluedragon436
03-12-2017, 11:09 PM
Not today, but yesterday I took her out to the local Jeep clubs land for a day of "wheeling" with friends.. Had an awesome time.. Got to give my winch a try out twice, once for me and once for other Jeep.. I managed to get my self stuck, by not wanting to romp through a huge mud hole with a few beefy bumps in it... especially since I had a slight issue going on, that I didn't want to make worse.. So I pulled myself out, didn't take much pull to make it happen, just didn't want to keep digging myself into a deeper hole...

But on to the issue that I didn't want to make worse was.. While running a new trail that we had cut last month while doing a land maintenance day, we did a cut through, that goes down into a pretty deep ditch, and back up the other side, did it with not issues, or struggle, but when I went to transition from the bottom to the going up side... my spare tire managed to hit the down side of the ditch, and managed to throw the top portion of my carrier into the rear windshield wiper where it comes through the rear hatch... pushing the panel in a bit, and shattering my rear window... the only thing that kept it together and in "one piece" was the shit tint... glad it had that though, was way too cold to not having at least some form of window.. So going to be heading to the JY tomorrow and seeing if I can snag a new hatch w/ glass for decent deal.. will also contact local glass shop and see how much it'd run to have them install a new window for me/ install a window I pull from the JY.. if it'll be just as cheap for me to pick up a "new" hatch with window installed.. I'll just snag that and not have to worry about straightening out the "dent".. It not being the same color will annoy the hell out of me for a while, but planning on having the whole exterior bed lined.. (once I figure out what color I want to go with)..

jdsilvaca
03-13-2017, 12:11 AM
So my 1-ton OTK Steering upgrade has hit a snag. Big Surprise. Anyway, I have to relocate my track bar mount on the axle side (passenger side). I ordered a bracket from TNT Customs.I have to adjust my steering stops, because the new thicker rod hits on the coil buckets. I cut them back as far as I could. I am going to use Reid Racing knuckles on my new axle, so hopefully this won't be an issue down the road.

4.3LXJ
03-13-2017, 12:17 AM
That is the only drawback with a rear tire, it can hit stuff. Maybe raise the tire up higher?

4.3LXJ
03-13-2017, 12:19 AM
So my 1-ton OTK Steering upgrade has hit a snag. Big Surprise. Anyway, I have to relocate my track bar mount on the axle side (passenger side). I ordered a bracket from TNT Customs.I have to adjust my steering stops, because the new thicker rod hits on the coil buckets. I cut them back as far as I could. I am going to use Reid Racing knuckles on my new axle, so hopefully this won't be an issue down the road.

Ah yes, the steering dilemma. That is the problem with these upgrades, the stuff you have to do afterwards to make it perform like OEM

bluedragon436
03-13-2017, 12:24 AM
That is the only drawback with a rear tire, it can hit stuff. Maybe raise the tire up higher?

Yeah, I'm going to raise it up.. Have it about midway on the heights possible.. I had it semi low to keep the COG down a bit.. but have been thinking about moving it up so that I'd have access to my rear hitch that is built into the bumper... so that I could use my hitch mount flag holder for parades and such.. Wish I had done it when we had a few days of decent weather last week now... oh well... I put it off, because I figured I'd just put the tire on the higher setting once I get the new bumper (the one I waited almost 2 years for)... coated, and installed.. Wish I had done it on this bumper now... but oh well.. you live and you learn.. what can you do?!!.. lol

nickxj94
03-13-2017, 12:27 AM
Put a light bar on it. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170313/9eec99f77eadce4a23831ecc6eccac50.jpg and a flowmaster 10 series. Because I like to party

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nickxj94
03-13-2017, 12:32 AM
And got it ready for the wheeling season.
Factory gas tank skid
Front Spartan locker
Rear Lincoln locker
Fixed my subs and rewired them. Now both work.
Installed all new Kenwood speakers in doors and hatch
Installed a 99 limited sound bar with some cheap Walmart speakers.
Only thing left is reinstall my tcase skid before I head out to BMR in Disney Oklahoma

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abebehrmann
03-13-2017, 10:00 AM
Not today, but yesterday I took her out to the local Jeep clubs land for a day of "wheeling" with friends.. Had an awesome time.. Got to give my winch a try out twice, once for me and once for other Jeep.. I managed to get my self stuck, by not wanting to romp through a huge mud hole with a few beefy bumps in it... especially since I had a slight issue going on, that I didn't want to make worse.. So I pulled myself out, didn't take much pull to make it happen, just didn't want to keep digging myself into a deeper hole...

But on to the issue that I didn't want to make worse was.. While running a new trail that we had cut last month while doing a land maintenance day, we did a cut through, that goes down into a pretty deep ditch, and back up the other side, did it with not issues, or struggle, but when I went to transition from the bottom to the going up side... my spare tire managed to hit the down side of the ditch, and managed to throw the top portion of my carrier into the rear windshield wiper where it comes through the rear hatch... pushing the panel in a bit, and shattering my rear window... the only thing that kept it together and in "one piece" was the shit tint... glad it had that though, was way too cold to not having at least some form of window.. So going to be heading to the JY tomorrow and seeing if I can snag a new hatch w/ glass for decent deal.. will also contact local glass shop and see how much it'd run to have them install a new window for me/ install a window I pull from the JY.. if it'll be just as cheap for me to pick up a "new" hatch with window installed.. I'll just snag that and not have to worry about straightening out the "dent".. It not being the same color will annoy the hell out of me for a while, but planning on having the whole exterior bed lined.. (once I figure out what color I want to go with)..


Tough break man.

That is a tough decision, I've heard replacing those hatches and getting everything lined up correctly can be one helluva job, but then again paying someone to replace the window and straightening out a dent isn't cheap or easy either.

abebehrmann
03-13-2017, 10:02 AM
and a flowmaster 10 series. Because I like to party

:smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021:

denverd1
03-13-2017, 01:14 PM
And got it ready for the wheeling season.
Factory gas tank skid
Front Spartan locker
Rear Lincoln locker
Fixed my subs and rewired them. Now both work.
Installed all new Kenwood speakers in doors and hatch
Installed a 99 limited sound bar with some cheap Walmart speakers.
Only thing left is reinstall my tcase skid before I head out to BMR in Disney Oklahoma

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when's BMR?

Brasscatz
03-13-2017, 03:33 PM
A) when where did you get that bumper that's on there

B) Free is awesome!

C) I miss my Jeeps

Got it from Matt who got it from another jeeper in town. Also free :D

nickxj94
03-13-2017, 08:22 PM
when's BMR?
24-26 this month

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bluedragon436
03-14-2017, 03:54 PM
Had to drive my XJ over to the bank last night, to park under the awning to get out of the sleet/snow... so that I could clean off the mud, and dry off the water... and then apply plastic and some speed tape to cover my rear window that I shattered Saturday. It is still there and blocking the majority of the hole, but didn't want it to get water into the cracks which would freeze and expand, and then open the hole completely leaving the whole back of my XJ open to the rain and any now we get/got.. Got a s**t ton of rain from about the same time I finished covering it, until this morning, so over 7hrs straight of rain and crazy wind.. Hoping tomorrow won't be too windy so that I can hit up the JY again and pull the hatch off a 97 they have in the yard, and get it onto my XJ... Got too add a bit of color to the XJ to make it better.. Green of course... at least until I get her color changed... which I hope will be here shortly.. after I get the gears/lockers installed (finally, hopefully next week)...

OldFaurt
03-14-2017, 06:46 PM
Weeeeeeeell... My beautiful, AWESOME... New used motor, ate it's head last week, I thought it was just a head gasket as the 0630 heads were shown to be pretty durable... Perhaps I should have looked into them a bit further! Mine got the 3 common fails. Between the valves in Cylinder 1, 2 and between cylinders 3 & 4. pa POW! Booyeah! Whoop, there it (They) is!
Cylinder 1
10118
Cylinder 2
10119
And Cylinders 3 - 4...
10120

Well at least the old head is in good shape, Flat, true and just a sing song of carbon build up from the "old Smoker" in the family. The 7120 fits right on the 1997 block, even the alignment pins for the head gasket still work!

You know, Life would simply bore me if it were not for these simple little diversions...

4.3LXJ
03-14-2017, 06:48 PM
Must have been pretty hot to do all that

OldFaurt
03-14-2017, 07:19 PM
It went from normal to about 240 in 30 seconds, damnedest thing I have ever seen!
Then it ran really rough and quit. Pulled over at 5:30am and looked at steam coming out of the air cleaner. It must have been full of stop leak and it blew out! Pretty exciting! Oil is clean.
When I took off the head bolts, I set the torque wrench to 60ftlbs, 2 broke free, set to 75 and 4 more broke free, set to 90 and got the rest. New head gasket barely impressed in spots. Either his torque wrench was soft or he did not use one, used over-used head bolts that were done before he started.
Don't know, no longer care. Path forward looks good, will have the old head checked and see what those bigger ports do! Woo hoo!

bluedragon436
03-14-2017, 07:38 PM
It went from normal to about 240 in 30 seconds, damnedest thing I have ever seen!
Then it ran really rough and quit. Pulled over at 5:30am and looked at steam coming out of the air cleaner. It must have been full of stop leak and it blew out! Pretty exciting! Oil is clean.
When I took off the head bolts, I set the torque wrench to 60ftlbs, 2 broke free, set to 75 and 4 more broke free, set to 90 and got the rest. New head gasket barely impressed in spots. Either his torque wrench was soft or he did not use one, used over-used head bolts that were done before he started.
Don't know, no longer care. Path forward looks good, will have the old head checked and see what those bigger ports do! Woo hoo!

Time to build up a budget stroker!! Who cares that it's only a bad head... should change out the rest/upgrade just in case!! LOL...

OldFaurt
03-14-2017, 07:49 PM
drewl... hold on, got to mop up this mess... I would love to, but I am in the wife's car and I MUST get the Heep... Jeep running again. I have 122 mile round trip each day, that head lasted for 12,000 miles... um... then I flushed and replenished the antifreeze about 3 weeks ago, Cause and effect?
Money is not in the books right now so... Maybe later... Does sound awfully good!
For now, I think getting the engine ginning again will suffice!

OldFaurt
03-14-2017, 07:53 PM
I think it breaks just to keep me up to my elbows in grease!

bluedragon436
03-14-2017, 08:43 PM
drewl... hold on, got to mop up this mess... I would love to, but I am in the wife's car and I MUST get the Heep... Jeep running again. I have 122 mile round trip each day, that head lasted for 12,000 miles... um... then I flushed and replenished the antifreeze about 3 weeks ago, Cause and effect?
Money is not in the books right now so... Maybe later... Does sound awfully good!
For now, I think getting the engine ginning again will suffice!

Yeah that makes sense.. I'm trying to save up money to get a stroker motor... but if I don't have enough for that if/when the engine gives up the ghost.. I'll be going with a stocker just to get her back up and running... but maybe if I'm close, since it's not my DD, I'll just keep saving up... guess just depends on what kind of deal I can find on the stocker... and how far I am away from a stroker build..


I think it breaks just to keep me up to my elbows in grease!

Yeah I feel that way too.. seems like the more I work on her and replace stuff that is worn out or just better off being replaced/upgraded... something else decides to show it's ugly head... Can't even go with negative attention is better than none at all.. cause I spend plenty of time/money on her, both doing stuff I want to do to/with her... as well as things that need to be done to her..

bluedragon436
03-15-2017, 11:35 PM
Well I guess as of 30 minutes ago... it was technically yesterday.. Went to the JY and pulled a hatch w/ good glass off a Green 97 in the JY, and carried it out all by myself.. The guys were like you'll never get that hatch off, especially without breaking the glass or damaging the hatch itself.. Once you get done messing with it, and want us to take it off for you and get it to the front let us know.. All together from the time I left the house till the time I was back home was under 2 hours... and that is including darn near 40 minutes of driving to and from the JY... I had no problems pulling the hatch, was heavy as hell supporting it on my head and switching arms as they started hurting.. and once I got it off, I carried it from the back of the yard to the front.. wasn't the most fun time carrying that is for sure.. but wasn't too bad... and certainly wasn't worth paying an extra $40 to have them pull it and bring it to the front.. Not really looking forward to removing my hatch and installing this one.. but.. am looking forward to not having the shattered glass.. Will hate having the green hatch on the white XJ.. But will only be temporary until I can get her all lined.. might even be able to have the rear hatch power lock working again (maybe, we'll see)... Also picked up a set of spare tail lights... in case anything happens while out having fun!! since I didn't expect to shatter the glass.. you never know.. lol

denverd1
03-16-2017, 09:54 AM
Well I guess as of 30 minutes ago... it was technically yesterday.. Went to the JY and pulled a hatch w/ good glass off a Green 97 in the JY, and carried it out all by myself.. The guys were like you'll never get that hatch off, especially without breaking the glass or damaging the hatch itself.. Once you get done messing with it, and want us to take it off for you and get it to the front let us know.. All together from the time I left the house till the time I was back home was under 2 hours... and that is including darn near 40 minutes of driving to and from the JY... I had no problems pulling the hatch, was heavy as hell supporting it on my head and switching arms as they started hurting.. and once I got it off, I carried it from the back of the yard to the front.. wasn't the most fun time carrying that is for sure.. but wasn't too bad... and certainly wasn't worth paying an extra $40 to have them pull it and bring it to the front.. Not really looking forward to removing my hatch and installing this one.. but.. am looking forward to not having the shattered glass.. Will hate having the green hatch on the white XJ.. But will only be temporary until I can get her all lined.. might even be able to have the rear hatch power lock working again (maybe, we'll see)... Also picked up a set of spare tail lights... in case anything happens while out having fun!! since I didn't expect to shatter the glass.. you never know.. lol

got a tail light to fix as well. large rock gave some pinstriping then broke most of the light mounting tabs. its hanging on but won't last long

IntrepidCherokee
03-16-2017, 08:24 PM
Got the fixed radiator (CSF 2671) back from the welder. Only $25 bucks. Gotta love copper/brass. Pressure tested and all good. Installed.
I've been dealing with overheating issues for some time now and finally, I can say, all my overheating worries are gone. The 3-row in unison with the WJ napa clutch fan are killin it! Left it to idle for 30min with ac on and 30 with ac off and the temp never rose. Sat in traffic in 95 degrees testing with the ac on and off and it sat just under 210. Stayed around 205 the whole drive back from Palm Springs to Los Angeles. [emoji119][emoji119][emoji119]

Was a bit worried about how many times I've overheated so tested for a blown head gasket and so stoked to find out that it's still good.

Adjusted the 4wd shifter and now it shifts through all 4x gears smoothly although it doesn't really matter now because I discovered the yolk on my front DS is toast so I sent it out to be rebuilt. Should be good to go early next week.

Fixed a burnt out tail/brake light.

Checked fluids...
that about does it. Been a fun couple of weeks. I love getting to wrench on the jeep even if it's for small maintenance just hope there's no mor cooling system work in the near future. I'm about all burnt out on that.



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4.3LXJ
03-16-2017, 09:43 PM
:congrats: on the hot weather fix

IntrepidCherokee
03-16-2017, 10:19 PM
:congrats: on the hot weather fix



Thanks! Now I can focus on saving for the fun stuff! Lift, bumpers, armor, winch and more! Hopefully will be sharing more sooner than later.
Looking to make it a capable and reliable expedition type vehicle.


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namrepaid53
03-17-2017, 07:54 AM
Changed the oil and rotated the tires. Ready for a road trip.

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bluedragon436
03-17-2017, 08:18 PM
Bought filter for it and the GF's LJ... Now just have to go and get the oil so I can get both changed, hopefully tomorrow... Got all my Dremel stuff together, so that I can hopefully get to taking care of the little surface rust spot on the "new" hatch tomorrow.. was going to do it today, but the little one got sent home early due to a low grade fever.. so no work on the Jeep today... Guess the saying is true... "don't put off tomorrow what can be done today"... should have worked on the hatch yesterday in the bit more of wind, instead of putting it off till today when the wind was still there, but far less then yesterday.. oh well... Just got to get the rust taken care of, and primed... and then get the hatch on before Tuesday, since I haul the XJ over to the shop on Tuesday to drop it off for the gear install... hopefully by next weekend the gears/lockers and axle rebuild will be done..

bluedragon436
03-20-2017, 08:24 PM
Swapped in the "new" hatch to take care of my shattered hatch glass I had in my original hatch.. in the process of installing stuff, I decided to take the wiring harness from the Jeep to the hatch that I had pulled out of the donor vehicle @ the PNP, and hooked it up from the Jeep to the original hatch, and everything worked, including the hatch power lock actuator.. which I have replaced the actuator twice trying to figure out why it wouldn't work.. so figured I'd try it with the "new" harness and it worked.. was pretty happy about that.. Now I got it all installed, still need to play a bit more to get it all lined up correctly.. but wasn't worried about it right, just needed the rear hatch glass to be solid for taking it over to the shop to get the gears/lockers done up tomorrow.. After doing some more work on the "new" hatch today I ground down some of the slight surface rust I saw after I had brought the hatch home.. it was a bit more than I thought it was.. so going to talk to a friend of mine as well as a few glass shops to see if they'll remove the glass out of the "new" hatch and move it over to the old hatch... so I'll have the original hatch which has no rust on it.. and is setup for the power door locks, which the "new" one doesn't.. Also took it to the car wash and sprayed as much of the mud from last weekend's outing @ the local Jeep clubs land.. Going to do a bit more cleaning tomorrow to clean the engine and radiator and spray off any remaining mud around the axles, transfer case and driveshafts.. so that there won't be anything falling (hopefully) on the guy when he does the gears/lockers..

Hum Wee JR
03-20-2017, 10:54 PM
Went out into the woods, thoroughly tested the flex and turn radius several times, took me 3 trips to haul out 1/2 a cord of manzanita firewood. Manzanita burns hot very dense and oily wood dulls chainsaws very quick but worth it. The house is toasty warm.

Basslicks
03-21-2017, 12:33 PM
Weeeeeeeell... My beautiful, AWESOME... New used motor, ate it's head last week, I thought it was just a head gasket as the 0630 heads were shown to be pretty durable... Perhaps I should have looked into them a bit further! Mine got the 3 common fails. Between the valves in Cylinder 1, 2 and between cylinders 3 & 4. pa POW! Booyeah! Whoop, there it (They) is!
Cylinder 1
10118
Cylinder 2
10119
And Cylinders 3 - 4...
10120

Well at least the old head is in good shape, Flat, true and just a sing song of carbon build up from the "old Smoker" in the family. The 7120 fits right on the 1997 block, even the alignment pins for the head gasket still work!

You know, Life would simply bore me if it were not for these simple little diversions...

Alignment pins? LUXURY! T'Weren't no alignment pins when I pulled the head on my '92. Putting the head gasket and head back on was a really unnerving thing BY MYSELF AT 1030 AT NIGHT!

Got 'er done though.

Along with the new header I got for Christmas....


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bluedragon436
03-23-2017, 04:35 PM
Well few days behind I guess... I towed my XJ over to the shop for the gear install.. was a fun drive across the Chesapeake Bay bridge with the Ram.. Can't wait until the gear install is done, and I can drive it home.. as well as put the mileage on it for the break-in... even more so once it's done with the break in and I can enjoy it with the new gears and lockers out in it's natural habitat...

nickyg
03-26-2017, 12:31 AM
Installed some AJ off-road rock sliders today.
Working in a review and write up for the near future https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170326/ac8b0b936a63a0b8772cef57d1ac969a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170326/8b839da2d16760168d7f3adc5e2f6183.jpg


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4.3LXJ
03-26-2017, 12:33 AM
So ya got some rocks to slide off of Nicky? :D

nickyg
03-26-2017, 12:43 AM
So ya got some rocks to slide off of Nicky? :D

Not really, But those pesky fire hydrants keep getting in the way.

4.3LXJ
03-26-2017, 10:18 AM
Sir craps a lot should stand away and keep you from coming in contact. those are his territory you know :D

bluedragon436
03-26-2017, 08:14 PM
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Only picture I've gotten of the gear/locker install/axle rebuild on the XJ... That was posted on the guy who own's the shop's FB page... Hope to have her back and get some pics of the diff covers if nothing else either tomorrow or Tuesday... Not much else I can take pictures of from the shop stop... since everything I got installed/replaced will be hidden inside the axle/hubs...

cj4a nz
03-27-2017, 04:15 PM
NickyG do you have a picture of the slider before they were fitted
or a picture of them mounted under the XJ.

bluedragon436
03-27-2017, 04:18 PM
Continued to sit and wait for word that she was done... And the wait continues.. hopefully tomorrow she'll be done and I can go get her...

IntrepidCherokee
03-27-2017, 10:29 PM
Got my wood paneling and sound deadening( if you can call it that on a jeep) near ready for sanding and finishing. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170328/41ca010aa987e27c9290c3cb0661d68a.jpg
I rather like the speakers without the girl. Gold looks good on the wood. But I'd rather no be parinoid all the time about kicking them. Probably end up painting the speaker grills black.
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bluedragon436
03-28-2017, 10:05 PM
Got my wood paneling and sound deadening( if you can call it that on a jeep) near ready for sanding and finishing. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170328/41ca010aa987e27c9290c3cb0661d68a.jpg
I rather like the speakers without the girl. Gold looks good on the wood. But I'd rather no be parinoid all the time about kicking them. Probably end up painting the speaker grills black.
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Those are some nice looking speakers.. I had looked @ the Polk speakers when I was replacing the more than worn out factory speakers in my XJ.. Wish I had gone with the Alpine speakers I had originally looked at over the Kicker speakers.. case the suck... they are better than the worn out stock speakers for sure.. but leave a lot to be desired..

IntrepidCherokee
03-29-2017, 02:04 AM
Those are some nice looking speakers.. I had looked @ the Polk speakers when I was replacing the more than worn out factory speakers in my XJ.. Wish I had gone with the Alpine speakers I had originally looked at over the Kicker speakers.. case the suck... they are better than the worn out stock speakers for sure.. but leave a lot to be desired..



I was looking into kickers too but heard tons of terrible things and the alpine seem very nice but decided to go with Polk because of cost and usability. Really love that they are marine rated, relatively cheap for component style and sound great. Couldn't be happier with my choice.


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