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    Default Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Ok guys, I have a huge ask:

    I've done the research across multiple forums, YouTube, etc...
    I've read the manuals.
    I've replaced EVERY part EXCEPT the Stator/Pickup Coil/Camshaft Position Sensor.
    I've checked all the fuses.
    I've metered all connections and have 5V feed to all sensors, even the stator.

    I've tested the CSP and it tests good.

    All grounds are good.

    I'm not getting any voltage to the supply side of the coil.

    Is it likely that the stator, being the only thing that isn't new through the entirety of the ignition system, is bad and keeping me from getting spark or voltage to the coil?

    Is it possible that the ASD is bad?

    I've ground to a halt.

    I appreciate any and all information that you guys can provide.

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Have you checked the ASD relay?
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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    I've searched high and low for the best way to test the ASD and have either overlooked it, failed to understand how, or not found a way to do it.

    I'm open to being educated.

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Swap in a known good relay, like say the AC relay
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    7.5" RE front and bastard pack rear on custom long arms
    30 gal gas tank
    lockers
    And a bunch of other stuff

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    LOL!!! That's too simple for me to comprehend!
    Seriously, I totally went waaay too technical. I'll go turn on the drop light and get to it, as soon as I make some "mac and the cheese" for my little nugget.

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Year ago I had started friends 4.0 ZJ. It has no spark at all and was a bad cam pos. sensor. If you have a chance, replace distributor with known good one

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Thanks, Od! That's the ONLY item that I haven't replaced new, on this entire build. If I'm gonna pick up a new one, I might as well splurge on the 10 for a new ASD.

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Steve!!! You're a god!!! On my way to AutoZone to pick up a new ASD!!!
    Put in the fan relay and got a beautiful blue spark!!! Looks like we're doing the 30 min/2000 RPM break in, tonight!! I can't resist!!!

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Good luck on that. It is always great to hear that first pop, then purrr
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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Well... I got the pop, but no purr, and a permanent CEL. 0.0
    After an enormous backfire and fancy flames in the throttle body... nothing.
    Tomorrow's another day.
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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Your right, tomorrow. But you are getting closer
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    Atlas 4 speed
    Griffin radiator
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    7.5" RE front and bastard pack rear on custom long arms
    30 gal gas tank
    lockers
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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    I'm curious about what would cause the CEL. It would cycle through and go out after the ignition was switched on earlier, but now it stays on.

    Any ideas?

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    Are you sure you are timed correctly? Of course, nothing like pulling the code to see what it says
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    Atlas 4 speed
    Griffin radiator
    On board air
    Warn 9.5ti on custom bumper
    7.5" RE front and bastard pack rear on custom long arms
    30 gal gas tank
    lockers
    And a bunch of other stuff

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    I was pretty meticulous in making sure that I was timed correctly: TDC/Dampener @ 0/Rotor @ 5/Plug wires correctly cylindered. Checked several times, after I discovered that the timing was retarded by one gear tooth (27ish degrees). I don't have the luxury of pulling the code, at the moment, and honestly, I'm not interested in purchasing a code reader. But I may have to if the CEL is part of a problem that won't allow me to fire it up.

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    Default Re: Mind-numbing Crank/No spark issue...

    I'm out to do the turn-key code checks now.

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