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    Default Re: Stumped on intermittent idle problem

    Looks like the issue is the "heat soak" problem:

    TSB 1803103 - 4.0L ROUGH ENGINE IDLE AFTER RESTART FOLLOWING A HOT SOAK
    Date: 09/05/03 (supercedes 1802702 dated 09/06/02)
    Model Year(s): 1999-2004

    Description: NOTE: This bulletin applies to vehicles equipped with a 4.0L engine. This bulletin involves the installation of a fuel injector insulator sleeve.

    Details: Customers may describe a 20 to 30 second rough idle following the restart of a heat soaked engine. This condition may be most noticeable when the engine is restarted following a prior 10 to 20 minute heat soak in hot ambient conditions of approximately 32 C (90ºF) or higher. This condition may be consistent with short city stop-and-go driving trips and can be aggravated by the use of fuel with a high ethanol content. Depending upon various conditions a MIL may occur due to DTC P0303 - Cylinder #3 Misfire.

    This condition may be caused by heat from the exhaust manifold that following engine shut down migrates to the area around injector #3 and causes fuel vapor to form within the injector. This in turn may cause a momentary misfire of cylinder #3 until the fuel vapor is cleared of injector #3. The insulator sleeve lowers the injector #3 temperature to a point below which the fuel will not normally vaporize.

    If vehicle exhibits a rough idle, and if a misfire of cylinder #3 is observed following a 10 to 20 minute hot soak, perform the Repair Procedure.

    Parts required:
    56028371AA Ignition Wire Shield

    Repair procedure:
    1. Cut insulator sleeve, p/n 56028371AA, to make two (2) insulator sleeves about 25-30 mm (1 in.) in length. See diagram.
    2. Install one sleeve around injector #3, with the slit on the upward facing side of the injector. Install the other sleeve with the slit on the downward facing side of the injector.
    3. Confirm sleeve is flush to intake manifold surface around injector.
    4. Check injector #3 wire and ensure that the injector is rotated to a 2 o'clock position.

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    Default Re: Stumped on intermittent idle problem

    OK Folks.

    If I've got insulation on top of the intake manifold, and heat resistant tubing about the number 3 injector (per the TSB), and I still get some heat soak problem behavior, what's left to try? Do new injectors work as an ultimate fix for this issue?

    If injectors will work, do credible reconditioned ones work ok? I understand that there are upgrades to be done with the injectors (Neon, Ford, etc.), but which do folks like the best? I like the reconditioned price.

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