Project: "Rigor Mortis"

[Pookapotamus]

Ok so it's been raining up here in Calgary last couple of days, and first thing I notice is that morts windshield leaks at the top, of course you can't expect window guys to do a good job installing a window into a brand new frame!


So I'm looking for a product that I can pour I to the gap at the top, and it will flow down into the leaky spots then solidify and still be flexable.

Does anyone know of anything I could use? I don't want to install yet another windshield into mort.

[gary63]

I have seen the glass shops use non harding silacone it is shoft and you can pump it in and when it sets up it seal the gap and it fix.

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks Gary I will look into it!

[Pookapotamus]

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Picked up all four, for the nice low price of 30 bones!!! A little rusty but I think I can make something to polish it off then soak them in oil!

[4.3LXJ]

Headed for the deep snow Dana?

[Pookapotamus]

Not any time soon, but 3 weeks ago there was 2 feet in the mountains, could have really used them!

[4.3LXJ]

No matter what anyone says, chains are great in snow and even better on all fours

[Pookapotamus]

Anyone have any tricks to clean the rust off of these?

I have been told diesel fuel.

[4.3LXJ]

Install them and drive in sand

[Pookapotamus]

Yes that would work great! But I need to fit them to my tires, they are made for 31's. Need to add some chain and another cross strap.

[Carves]

yep ... sand will clean 'em up quicksmart .. ;) .. :D

If you google ... I think, theres a baking soda and vinegar mix .. or something ... that some use ???

[4.3LXJ]

Baking soda and vinegar :confused: Makes lots of bubbles anyway :D

[Brasscatz]

Can always mix up a solution of CLR to soak them in. Shouldn't take too much of the stuff and would work quite well.

[Pookapotamus]

I grabbed a jug of metal restore rust remover, will see how it works.

[Pookapotamus]

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Got busy today and started to work on getting the exhaust around all the suspension and out the back.

[4.3LXJ]

That has always been a priority with me Dana, exhaust all the way to the back. I hate that fresh exhaust smell.

[Pookapotamus]

It's really tough with coils and a 4 link in the rear, the long range tank takes up a lot of space too. Ya the wife was complaining that mort stinks, so he goes under the knife again.

[4.3LXJ]

The space problem has been why I haven't done a four link in the classical way. I have a three inch exhaust system that I like that goes all the way to the back in spite of my large tank. I think I have myself talked into a three link rear. Works well on the front so far

[Pookapotamus]

3" exhaust, I'm only running 2"

[4.3LXJ]

I have room with tight bends. You might want to consider oval pipe. It is made for use in tight places. Not cheap, but effective

[Pookapotamus]

I was considering mounting the rear half of the exhaust directly to the jeep so that it can't rattle against the suspension, and having a flex pipe in there somewhere so the engine can still flex. Good idea or not?

[Pookapotamus]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/uju6uzy2.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

I was considering mounting the rear half of the exhaust directly to the jeep so that it can't rattle against the suspension, and having a flex pipe in there somewhere so the engine can still flex. Good idea or not?

That could be done, however the unibody will turn into a giant speaker for any exhaust noise

[Pookapotamus]

Well I am fairly well insulated back there, it's just easier to mount it with the clearance issues

[4.3LXJ]

I totally understand. Exhaust is the one drawback of the four link that everyone is silent on.

[Pookapotamus]

I won't give up!

[4.3LXJ]

Just a suggestion, the one place you can put the exhaust you might not have thought of is down the center next to the drive shaft I think. Then once past the tunnel you can go for the side maybe. Also 2.5" oval pipe is only 2" thick

[Pookapotamus]

I will be running up the tunnel like you suggest, first I'm tackling the fuel pump http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/hysamahu.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

I will be interested to see how it turns out

[Pookapotamus]

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It took ten different pieces but I managed to route my exhaust around my 4-link and coils and gas tank

[4.3LXJ]

Nice one Dana

[Pookapotamus]

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Finished up the recent round of upgrades, even added fairleads front and rear, now to beg the wife for synthetic!

[Pookapotamus]

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Before

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After

[Pookapotamus]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/27/jezy4a6e.jpg

Much more air flow now!

[Pookapotamus]

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Baked potato anyone?

[Pookapotamus]

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It's shiny!

[4.3LXJ]

Star light, star bright …………..

I like it

[bluedragon436]

Mortis is looking good and that IM is def looking nice.. too bad you can't do the same polish job on the inside.. then there'd def be some nice flow rates!!

[Pookapotamus]

It's not polished! It's reflective wrapped, supposed to repel 400*f of heat, hoping to cool down my intake temps and fuel rail temps

[Carves]

It's not polished! It's reflective wrapped,


Hahh ...

Earlier this morning I thought you had gone for bling - and chromed it,

... until I saw your baked potato post .. :D

[Pookapotamus]

Pics with the I phone just don't show everything, I did not get my bling on!

[Pookapotamus]

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What shit seals! These are more of an oil scrape than a seal! Can't believe these were even in there! Just the top has any rubber, it's almost paper thin! And is very loose on the valve!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/guqu7yva.jpg

Replacing with these!

[Pookapotamus]

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What do you guys think of the yellow beadlocks?

[bluedragon436]

And those seals def were about useless and needing to be replaced for sure!! Think the yellow headlocks look good on there!!

[Pookapotamus]

The seal against the fire wall was a pain in the ass to change! But they are all done and I don't think he smokes anymore!

[4.3LXJ]

Very sexy Dana

[XJ Wheeler]

2 :thumbsup:

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Took mort on a 200 km trip to some out laying towns in the area, new valve seals work great! Ran awesome! And less pinging too!

[Pookapotamus]

Mort died on the way to work today, looks like he started spitting oil from the dipstick tube, now he won't start! ???????????

[Brasscatz]

Starting to seem that you shouldn't have named it Rigor Mortis.... just sayin :D New name: "Strong Pulse".

[Pookapotamus]

Sure make me laugh! But I'm crying on the inside!

[Pookapotamus]

Anyone have any ideas what this could be? I don't understand the no start issue? I can see the crankcase going over pressure and pushing oil out the dipstick, but why the no start?

[Brasscatz]

Can you confirm that you're getting fuel? You had the fuel rail out recently, right? Maybe spray starter fluid in the intake and see if it fires.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 because my microwave couldn't do it

[XJ Wheeler]

I would definitely try unplugging the cps and back in.

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Yup got lots of fuel, haven't tried unplugging the cps yet, I guess I will be pulling it apart tonight when I get it home!

[4.3LXJ]

Any CEL Dana?

[Pookapotamus]

Nope, just tried starting it again, fired weakly a couple of times but that's it

[4.3LXJ]

CPS I think. They can fail and not throw a code

[Pookapotamus]

Very well could be, I carry a spare, just seems weird with the oil issue?

[4.3LXJ]

The oil issue is probably caused by an unrelated plug in the vents on top of the valve cover. 4.0s are famous for that

[Pookapotamus]

So I got mort home, via tow truck, ( so humiliating), then noticed a puddle of oil on the floor from last night, apparently he was leaking last night.

[Pookapotamus]

Well lots if oil in the intake, did start for a bit, died again, seems to be shooting lots of air out if the Pcv hole

[4.3LXJ]

How are the plugs?

[Pookapotamus]

A little wet

[4.3LXJ]

Now you know why it died. It burped oil into the intake. So, now you need to find out why. Two things to check. The elbows on the valve cover vents and compression

[Pookapotamus]

All time high compression of 70 psi!!!

****!

[4.3LXJ]

Uh Oh :eek:

[Pookapotamus]

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Well everything is looking good so far

[4.3LXJ]

You have been busy Dana

[Pookapotamus]

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Top two rings are stuck in place, don't move,
Never seen this before!

Now what?

[Pookapotamus]

Ok so here is what I think went down...

Valve seals leaked from day 1, which lubricated the rings and kept them free and moving, after fixing the valve seals the rings with oil in them basically cooked in place.

Does this sound feasible? Or am I completely out to lunch?

And if I am right, do I just clean everything up reinstall and I'm good? Or will the rings do this again and I should be ordering new rings? Can I shave the rings down somehow?

[4.3LXJ]

I would remove the rings first. The question is if they are still springy or if they have become conformed to the smaller shape. If they have, the question is if they were bad to start with or as you say they became stuck. I have never seen this either except in a Jeep I managed to cook the rings and take the temper out of them

[Pookapotamus]

They are still springy, but might be better to just replace.

[4.3LXJ]

Yes, they will need to reseat so I would suggest replacing. I suppose your theory about the oil getting cooked to varnish might be correct. I have never seen that before either. What kind of oil are you running in Mort

[Pookapotamus]

10w 40 rotella, I believe

[4.3LXJ]

Rotella is good oil. The whole thing is kinda fishy. I use Valvoline racing oil. It will take more heat and doesn't leave deposits. Might be a suggestion

[Pookapotamus]

The rings might be too thick for the groove they are in, I'm a little hesitant to go with new rings as I don't have the proper tool to grind them for a perfect fit/ seal. Whatever that tool is called.

[4.3LXJ]

Yes, there is supposed to be some clearance there. Here is a tool you might be interested in

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wmr-w80576

[Pookapotamus]

Yup that would help! Any way I can measure the spring force of the rings?

[4.3LXJ]

I don't know of any. Basically I think the accepted method is to look at the gap when not assembled

[Pookapotamus]

That would work! I'll grab a pic tomorrow!

[Pookapotamus]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/10/ypa9a4ub.jpg

Considering both rings have a different gap, I'm going to order new rings!

[4.3LXJ]

I think that is a good idea

[abebehrmann]

Damn, this ruins the magnetic oil filter experiment. Sorry about the Jeep acting up Pook.

[Pookapotamus]

Damn, this ruins the magnetic oil filter experiment. Sorry about the Jeep acting up Pook.


This is just one of the joys if owning a jeep! It was actually a good thing for the oil filter experiment, found out the strip magnet is way too weak, have to revamp the idea.

Also this crosses off the last item on my list that was not done by me, and that was not done properly in the first place. If you're going to do something do it you're self so you know it's done right!

[4.3LXJ]

Someone else do your engine Dana?

[Pookapotamus]

Yup, had the block bored and built by a reputable engine builder, looks like rings were not properly installed.

Had the head built by a reputable guy, real shitty seals were used.

Had a windshield installed into morts brand new frame, leaked like a sieve, and could see out side where not enough urethane was applied.


3 things built by others In my whole build, 3 things done wrong! It is so hard to find good quality work!

[4.3LXJ]

That is so true. I don't know who the engine builder was, but in my book anyone that mass produces rebuilds does less than quality work by using blocks and heads that are marginal and offsetting bores for instance and using the cheapest parts possible. Just my 2 cents

[Pookapotamus]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/11/y5ynebez.jpg

Bad pic, but it's obvious the engine builder just threw a set of rings in and called it good.

[4.3LXJ]

Compression rings have to have a gap there so they can expand and contract with changes in heat. I think you better rering the whole thing Dana. How are the bearings?

[Pookapotamus]

Agreed Steve, it's hard to see in the pic but the gap in the ring is huge! But yet they don't fit all the way into the groove in the piston either, I'm thinking they used stock rings, should be fun tracking down a proper set to be used with a .040 bore.

[4.3LXJ]

Summit Racing might be your friend there. Generally pretty good stuff

[Pookapotamus]

Yup have heard good stuff about summit, there is a big engine shop up here too that I might try, need to brush up on my engine building knowledge, it's been a while!

[4.3LXJ]

Just a thought, dangerous I know. Your oil rings aren't big enough I think. That would also make it use oil.

[Pookapotamus]

What makes you say they are too small?

[4.3LXJ]

It doesn't look like they stick out far enough when disassembled

[Pookapotamus]

Probably cooked into place too, going to be ordering a new set and replace everything.

[4.3LXJ]

I think that is a good idea

[Pookapotamus]

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Well shit! #3 connecting rod bearing, looks like some dirt got in there and wrecked the bearing, crank still looks pristine, so hopefully I can get away with just dropping in a new bearing.

[Pookapotamus]

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#1 ring installed in #2 groove and upside down, oil ring installed upside down, you can't trust anybody these days!!!

[abebehrmann]

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#1 ring installed in #2 groove and upside down, oil ring installed upside down, you can't trust anybody these days!!!

That is ridiculous! I would be taking pics and notes and bringing them into the shop that did this for a full refund or at least to give them a piece of your mind.

[Pookapotamus]

I agree but in the end it's just not worth it, don't need the stress if dealing with them.

[Pookapotamus]

Ordered rings, bearings, winch line, rear springs, head gasket, pan gasket, oil, break in oil, filters, gauges, winch plug, and a couple other things today, not looking forward to this bill!

[Rocco83]

woohoo, can't wait to see some updates! Get it all running good and wonderful, that way you can come on down to the states next year for a run and all you guys with experience can put my Jeep together with all the stuff I'll haul in a trailer behind me haha

[4.3LXJ]

Sounds like fun stuff Dana Looking forward to it

[Pookapotamus]

Yup! Will be nice to have him back on the road!

[Pookapotamus]

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Upgraded from my 140, it was on sale and I could not help myself!

[JENSSEN]

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Upgraded from my 140, it was on sale and I could not help myself!

)))facepalm(((

Pook seriously,.. It's all I do at work.

Crappy tire? Home Depot? Or princess auto?

Just look at your plastic drive assembly reconsider, keep your receipt and call / text me

[Pookapotamus]

This is a new model Jensen, no plastic, really well made, lived my 140, just wanted more power, and for $300 I could not argue.


Also did an alternator flip to mort today, can't wait for all my parts to come in.

[bRIBEGuy]

Here is my new desktop!

2989

Hey, I know that picture! ;)

[Pookapotamus]

Yes you should!

[bRIBEGuy]

New welder, huh? I know who to bug when I finally get my windshield out then. ;)

Mortis looks awesome........glad I got to see the build in person, it's truly been an amazing process, and very motivational to us normal XJ mortals.

[Pookapotamus]

Parts are arriving the day AFTER the long weekend! 😢

[Pookapotamus]

Here is a link to my Heater box Mod:

http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=18574

[Pookapotamus]

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I don't really like the cluster like this but it will work until I can afford the new gauges that I have picked out to go in, and this will allow me to install a working and correct fuel gauge.

[4.3LXJ]

It is getting there though. Nice work

[Pookapotamus]

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Walnut shells, who knew!

[Pookapotamus]

Only got rings for 2 pistons, the other 4 are coming in two weeks! 😢😢😢

[Pookapotamus]

No parts until the 19th!!!! 😢😢😭😭😭😭

Time to pick up some welding gas and find something else to mod!!!😁

[Pookapotamus]

So... Working on the pistons this morning I buggered one up, which turned out to be a good thing, did some research and found out the pistons were metric and the rings were imperial. Which means these should have never been paired together in the first place. That's why the side clearance was too tight and why the rings failed. So now I'm ordering new pistons, either Keith black or speed pro don't know which is a better piston

[Pookapotamus]

And now I find out that I can switch to forged pistons and stock 4.0L rods and go to a long rod stroker for around $700.

What should I do?

[bluedragon436]

What will that take it too?? And how is that a long rod if it is stock rods?? Or were you meaning 4.2 rods?? I know I've been looking at collating the parts for doing a budget stroker w/ 4.2L rods & crank... I think a budget stroker build would be nice for sure, especially if ou are going to be hitting up new pistons anyways..

[Pookapotamus]

It's already a short rod stroker, and from what I can tell is the longer rod does not add that much, only seen in dyno, but it is stronger. So I will probably stick with what I have. I'm still researching so don't have all the answers. The 4.2 rods, the ones I have are shorter than the stock 4.0L.

[bluedragon436]

Oh ok, that makes sense.. I guess I didn't see that you and the 4.2 rods already... Either way I look forward to seeing the pics of the build up of whatever you choose to run...

[Pookapotamus]

There really is not that much advantage to the long rod stroker, probably end up staying with what I have.

[Pookapotamus]

Ordered the new pistons today, hopefully have them and all the other parts Friday

[Pookapotamus]

Pistons are at the border ready for pickup!

Can I just press the wrist pins out? Then press the new ones in? Or am I going to have to build an oven to heat them up to press them off/on?

[Pookapotamus]

Well I picked up all (well most) of my parts last night and got busy in the garage today. First thing I had to build a press to press the wrist pins out. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/20/f2ca0e0c5d824c24802b647fa59254f2.jpg

An old jack worked perfect, and was able to reassemble the jack after words!

Then started grinding rings. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/20/c0c5450002286611ac1b968bde867161.jpg

[autotech98]

Pook,just wanted to say i've been following your build and its amazing! The craftsmanship and attention to detail..beautiful.

[4.3LXJ]

Dana, I love the press

[Pookapotamus]

Pook,just wanted to say i've been following your build and its amazing! The craftsmanship and attention to detail..beautiful.


Thanks, means a lot!

[Pookapotamus]

Dana, I love the press


Thanks Steve, worked great!

[4.3LXJ]

I might have to include this as a welding project on a podcast. You will get credit of course

[Pookapotamus]

Lol, I wouldn't share if I did not want people to use/build on my ideas.

[Carves]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/20/f2ca0e0c5d824c24802b647fa59254f2.jpg


Hahhh

Good One .. :thumbsup:



..... and you must have some huge clamps,

...... if need 12" holes in your welding table .. ;);) .. :D

[Pookapotamus]

I got the welding table for free because of that hole!

[Pookapotamus]

Well shit! Broke two rings installing the pistons because of my cheap ass ring compressor! Now I have to wait for summit to send new sets!

[OldFaurt]

Great build!
I was looking at your ring in cylinder shot and could not see any cross hatch...
If you are putting in new rings, it is always a good idea to use even a cheep bottle brush hone to throw some cross hatch into the surface. helps seat the rings quicker and greatly improve oil control. Mind you it just might be a bad angle on the bore so it does not show, I will revisit some of the past engine build picks. again, Great job! I want to find a nice rebuildable block and make a fresh motor for my jeep!

[Pookapotamus]

That was before I honed them, will take pics when I get the chance.

[Pookapotamus]

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[4.3LXJ]

Very pretty Dana. A true work of mechanical art :D

[OldFaurt]

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Ah there you go!
I am jealous! That is going to be a very good running rig when you are done!

Thanks for the nice write up on your build!

[Pookapotamus]

Pfft considering that this engine only has 6000km on it, it freeking well better run good!

[Pookapotamus]

Parts came in today! So excited! Work can begin again!

[Pookapotamus]

It's finally going back together really good,tested the compression and it has doubled from the last time of 65 psi, now getting around 125 to 130, and the rings are not seated yet. Won't be too long and he will run again! http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/04/a47864cebd76e793be523dd252f0d1ca.jpg

Need to finish the alternator flip and get a new belt, finish up the fuel gauge wiring and should be good to start.

[4.3LXJ]

Oh so clean, I am jealous

[Pookapotamus]

Well Mort fired right up again, sounds good, now I just need to get a new belt so I can run him long enough to seat the rings.

[4.3LXJ]

Good news Dana

[XJ Wheeler]

Awesome man! Congrats!

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[bluedragon436]

Glad to hear he's running again Dana!! Hope the seating of the rings goes smoothly and he runs forever!!

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks guys, can't wait to go for a drive!!!

[Pookapotamus]

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Alternator flip done, bracket needs paint, and I'm off to the parts store to get a belt that's 64 3/4" long!

[4.3LXJ]

Nice job Dana

[oderdene]

nice work bro

[abebehrmann]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/06/521370f615c28d6cbf4462296437eedf.jpg

Is that to get the alternator up out of the mud and water?

[Pookapotamus]

Yes sir, since I decided to ditch the a/c, I now have room to flip the alternator up and hopefully keep it cleaner

[Brasscatz]

Plus making it much easier to get to :D

[Pookapotamus]

Well the new belt works great, I think I lost 20 lbs this new belt is so short, but with only 4 pulleys that's all it needs any more.

Warmed Mort up, getting ready to break in the ring when I noticed a couple of problems, sparks jumping out of the plug boots, and no heat!!!

Back to the drawing board!

[Pookapotamus]

Ok heater mod is working great now, so I got Mort up to temp, and did a break in cycle, tomorrow I should have almost everything buttoned back up, then I can swap the rear coils and go for a drive!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Going for taller coils?

[Pookapotamus]

Yup, removing the 2" spacer that was in there to keep me fairly level, and swapping in taller stronger coils.

[4.3LXJ]

Looking forward to seeing that done and the results

[Pookapotamus]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/18/69b62b9390fff381d47e2b1f11ed6f2c.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/18/a73a1f7546ce7d4380d78d926109b6ea.jpg

Ok, finished buttoning Mort up, aimed his lights, swapped in the new rear coils, flushed the cooling system among a bunch of other little fixes. Then took him for a boot! Much better! A little more low end torque, don't bottom the rear shocks out on speed bumps. Can't wait to take him to work Monday!

Have a few engine codes now though p0443,p0132 and p0135. Will try to sort those out soon enough and I will just have to see what happens in the next little while.

[4.3LXJ]

Looking good Dana. Congrats

[XJ Wheeler]

Good work bud! Glad to hear he's doing well. Still looks amazing btw!

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[Pookapotamus]

Thanks guys, he still has a lot of valve train noise, hopefully Santa has a set of roller rockers earmarked for me this year! And at some point I will pull the stroker and blueprint the crank and rods. But for now it's time to hit a few trails!

[Pookapotamus]

Well I feel kinda stupid, Mort was throwing a few engine codes, one was an oxygen sensor that I forgot to plug in, and the other was for the emissions solenoid thingy, tried to clear them a few times and they would not clear. Figured great now I get to live with that and try to solve them later.

Woke up this morning and realized that you can't clear codes with the engine running, cleared them and ran around town all day without them coming back.

[4.3LXJ]

A real aha moment

[Pookapotamus]

Ok, had to go do some welding on bribeguy's jeep, took Mort on the highway for the first time, has no power after 3400 rpm, like he is out of air, or fuel not like when he hits the rev limiter. Not sure if it's because of the cheep plug wires I have, possibly floating the valves or what's happening????

Anyone experience this before? Any suggestions???

[4.3LXJ]

Mudderoy had the same problem after a rebuild. Can you get it back by going to a higher RPM?

[Pookapotamus]

Nope, can't power through it.

[4.3LXJ]

Might check your TPS. If it doesn't read right it could cause this.

[Pookapotamus]

I will look into it, it never ends does it!

[4.3LXJ]

No, that is for sure. I am thinking that if it doesn't show full throttle or near it then the mixture would lean out and not make RPMs. But it is a start

[Pookapotamus]

I have another tps, somewhere, will swap it and see. It has to be a fuel and spark issue. Will redline no prob with no load.

Was even thinking maybe cam, or cam timing, I have the extreme 4x4 cam, was wondering if it would limit the valves at high rpm, but that does not really make sense.

[Pookapotamus]

Methinks the shitty wires that are leaking might create too much resistance limiting the spark, and now that I have decent compression, I'm blowing out the spark at high rpm.

????

[4.3LXJ]

Turn off the lights and rev it up. If you see a light show you will know

[Pookapotamus]

Don't need to turn off the lights to see the light show! If summit would hurry and ship me my new wires, I could at least rule out spark as a problem

[Pookapotamus]

Can you put a set of roller lifters on that cam? Does the cam have to be special?

[4.3LXJ]

Can you put a set of roller lifters on that cam? Does the cam have to be special?

Hmmm, that is a good question. I don't think you can. I do know the flat tappet cam is a little taller on one side to get the lifter to rotate during the lift to avoid uneven wear. I think, but not sure, that the grind if different due to the roller being a point of lift instead of a flat disk.

[abebehrmann]

Hmmm, that is a good question. I don't think you can. I do know the flat tappet cam is a little taller on one side to get the lifter to rotate during the lift to avoid uneven wear. I think, but not sure, that the grind if different due to the roller being a point of lift instead of a flat disk.


This is what I have read.

[Pookapotamus]

Yup researched it and you can't, summit is a bad website, now I'm looking at degreeing my cam, and it looks like I measured all my pushrods wrong, so once again, order parts and head back to the drawing board! 😊

[4.3LXJ]

You will have to stop that. The Mrs. will cut you off ….. the credit card :D

[Pookapotamus]

It's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission Steve!

[4.3LXJ]

So you have done this before? :D

[Pookapotamus]

Many times Steve!

So more info, did not make it to work this morning, got most of the way there and could not get him to rev above 1k even with no load! Shut him down for a min started back up and was able to limp to work.

So I'm sure it's a fuel problem, now recently I deleted the carbon canister, and ran the tank vent directly to the evp solenoid, thought nothing about it, but pulled the gas cap off today and whoosh sucked in lots of air! So now I'm thinking connecting that the way I had it might be crating too much vacuum in the tank and some how compromising my fuel pressure or vapor licking the rail.

Whatcha think???

[4.3LXJ]

You might be on to something there. Why done you stuff a rag in the filler and take it for a spin and see what happens

[Pookapotamus]

I unplugged the vacuum line so the tank is vented to air again. Helped but problem is still there. Was thinking fuel filter but it should be fine, there is one in the tank and one out side, last week when I was in the tank everything looked nice and clean.

Just have to see what the drive home brings I guess.

[Pookapotamus]

well the drive home went ok, still runs like shit above 3400, but now almost wants to power through it, will have to check fuel pressure when i can.

[4.3LXJ]

Progress then

[Pookapotamus]

Yup now to decide what to do, new higher pressure pump? Are the filters bad? Did I bugger up my injectors?

Sigh!

[4.3LXJ]

Dana, the stock pump puts out plenty of pressure, about 60psi I think or close to it. If it is weak, then a stock replacement should do the trick. However, one thing I would look at is total flow. Try taking your fuel line loose at the rail and flow into a can. It should be a nice steady stream

[Pookapotamus]

I think it was pushing 65 psi when I first got Mort running and tested everything, really the only reason to go aftermarket is because they are cheaper. Probably just Burt it out trying to overcome the vacuum. This pump came out of an old zj might just be old

[4.3LXJ]

Could be I suppose

[Pookapotamus]

Well I pulled the pump and gave the filters a cleaning, and Mort has all his power back. Filters looked nice and clean, but I thing the pump was bottoming out in the tank and limiting suction. No idea but at least he is drive-able again.

[4.3LXJ]

Hmmmmm. I may need to pull mine too. Not sure where that pump sits in my aftermarket tank. I am thinking it sits too high

[Pookapotamus]

What style of pump Steve? Mine is from a zj, has the 8" screw on ring and a spring loaded base.

[4.3LXJ]

I am not really sure. The tank was made here in Chico and came with the sending unit and fuel pump. I got it out of the pick and pull for $45, the price of the sending unit because they had punctured the tank. It is made of heavy steel so I just welded it up and was good to go. But I am not sure it is a stock sending unit. I think it is an aftermarket. No O ring needed with it. It has its own gasket incorporated with it

[Pookapotamus]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/03/6982653167dc216f0a79444bd7792be3.jpg

Finally!!! Only took 3 months to get!

[4.3LXJ]

Dana, I really hate to say this, but Orange clashes with the yellow. Better give it to Jensen :D

[Pookapotamus]

I know! Silly companies not offering yellow!

I don't think Jenssen's rig needs it! Never seen it stuck!

[4.3LXJ]

We can always put some kind of Jeep hex on him :D

[Pookapotamus]

Deal!

[Pookapotamus]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/34952c01cee088662431f87b11bb9131.jpg

Now that's a nice set of wires! Awesome quality, can't wait to install them!

[4.3LXJ]

wrong color Dana. They should have been purple :D

[Pookapotamus]

Lol! No! Yellow conducts electricity faster!

[4.3LXJ]

The speed of light is faster in yellow?

[autotech98]

Yep 14th law of physics anything yellow is faster....lol

[Pookapotamus]

Exactly Steve!

Silly me I thought it was the 13th law, keep forgetting about that Murphy basterd! http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/d88102e39f180de8d7cb6c29997799cc.jpg

[autotech98]

:cool:

[XJ Wheeler]

Looks awesome Dana! I'm still happy with mine, and I think you will be too.

[Pookapotamus]

Runs good, did not notice much of a change, I think it's more stable at higher rpm. Talk about a really good quality set of wires!

[autotech98]

Its the yellow...the color of power. Looks good Dana

[Pookapotamus]

Well mort's gas mileage has climbed a bit, now getting 13.4 mpg. Although I have come to realize genright lied to me about the size of my tank, there is no way it holds 135 liters, I think it only holds 110, most I have ever got in there was 100 liters.

[Mudderoy]

Well mort's gas mileage has climbed a bit, now getting 13.4 mpg. Although I have come to realize genright lied to me about the size of my tank, there is no way it holds 135 liters, I think it only holds 110, most I have ever got in there was 100 liters.

I have a 20 gallon tank but I MAY have seen 19 gallons in it once.

[Pookapotamus]

It was advertised as a 35 gallon, and I ran him to the point that he was chugging when I got to the pump, I think it's a 30 gallon.

[XJ Wheeler]

Maybe the pickup isn't positioned right? Never had, nor even seen one of these tanks but i know they charge entirely too much to be skimpy with the capacity!

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[4.3LXJ]

Mine is a 31 gallon, but I have never put more than 26 into it.

[JENSSEN]

I know! Silly companies not offering yellow!

I don't think Jenssen's rig needs it! Never seen it stuck!

Oh its been stuck lol! just gets stuck in harder and harder places

[Pookapotamus]

Pics or it did not happen! 😃

[Pookapotamus]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/6a0166ca93eeadbba549096ecc2d0363.jpg

Yea!!! Another chance to upgrade something!!!!!

Time to fire up the new lathe!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Where is all that oil coming from Dana?

[Pookapotamus]

That's just water from the drive home, I broke the lower sway bar mount off.

[4.3LXJ]

OK, sorry about that. Must be my eyesight :D

[Pookapotamus]

No biggie, need to wash his undercarriage!!

[Pookapotamus]

Fixed the swaybar mount today, I doubt it will last, but should get me by until I rebuild the whole system.

Then I built some chains. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/14/02a590d9d6cb029479ac6e56608534bb.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Chains are cool. Amazing traction in mud and snow

[autotech98]

Look beefy :cool:

[Pookapotamus]

So I finally took the time to go through all my receipts from building Mort to see exactly what he cost me. I know I am missing a few things here and there but I think this is fairly accurate.

Parts: $32,200
Consumables: $2,200
shipping and labor: $700

This does not include my labor or the tools that I bought to complete Mort, I do know I spent roughly $4,600 on tools but have no idea what labor I put into Mort.

And of course Mort is not yet finished, Doubt he ever will be!

Just Empty Every Pocket!!!

[abebehrmann]

Now burn that price list before your wife finds it!!

[Brasscatz]

Man... could've saved yourself all the hassel and just bought the "equally capable" 2015 Cherokee :rolleye0012:

[Pookapotamus]

Yup but I could not afford the paper bags to wear while I drive it!

[Wyotonka]

This thing is beast. Looks like you have put a lot of work into it.

[Poorboy]

Oh maw gawd... Should've never clicked this thread... So. Many. Ideas!

[Pookapotamus]

@ Wyotonka, thanks and I'm still putting lots of work into it!

@ Poorboy, mwahahahah!! Another victim of the apookalypse!!!!!

[Wyotonka]

Pretty much same boat... mine is a yellow 4 door

[Pookapotamus]

Factory yellow??

[autotech98]

Pook i showed my wife your build thread she loves yellow and said mort is awesome.....then looked at me and said dont get too many ideas lol

[Brasscatz]

then looked at me and said dont get too many ideas lol

If I had a nickel..... :banghead:

[autotech98]

I hear ya l

[Pookapotamus]

Pook i showed my wife your build thread she loves yellow and said mort is awesome.....then looked at me and said dont get too many ideas lol


Glad she liked it! Good luck getting more parts approved! Tell her I'll send more pics if she lets you buy the odd thing! 😉

Unfortunately on my wheeling trip sat, at the first obstacle, I slipped and sprained my ankle badly, folded my left foot under me heard a loud snap! Can barely push the clutch in, looks like I get demoted to driving the chev pick up for a while! 😢

[autotech98]

Sorry to hear that man. Shes getting better i bought her an 06 grand and shes starting to get the jeep affliction...lmbo

[XJ Wheeler]

Sucks about the ankle, sorry to hear Dana. Be praying for a quick recovery!

[4.3LXJ]

Oh bad news Dana. Maybe you can have the wife drive and you can ride shotgun :rolleye0012:

[Pookapotamus]

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/31c2413e8c115a37d02836043bb8a143.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/1e7cb73ab77301843b67705f404f10de.jpghttp://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/14/9b3eb5e2b4e8e037f5358fd8c040060e.jpg

Mort grew horns!!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Very punk :D

[Pookapotamus]

Even makes the wife's Impala look better!!!http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/15/aa9a9a12a05250d0ab6a703a30217f32.jpg

[autotech98]

Have you been inhaling exhaust fumes again Dana ???

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547

[4.3LXJ]

Reccent lathe project?

[Pookapotamus]

Have you been inhaling exhaust fumes again Dana ???

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547


You say that like its a bad thing???

Yes and no Steve, I had a girl ask me what I could do to give her jeep some attitude, came up with this.