What front bar/bumper do you have

[greeno]

Living down under we only have one front bar type ( ARB) and I think there a bit out of date now and are big $

I'm going to fab up my own front bar and I'm looking for some photo's of your front bar's or bar's you like to have from over there

we can't run the stinger type bars:mad:

[dagr8tim]

This is the style I'm seriously considering.
http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=XJFC&Category_Code=XJB

[4.3LXJ]

Here is one that is home built, but being down under mate, you might find this one interesting, considering the roos you have on the road. I built this one to take a hit from a good sized deer and not have any damage. Most of the roo bars I have seen pics of are just a lot of iron. But this one is built to have a great approach angle, hold a winch and deflect an animal down under the Jeep will it will do little harm. My wife got three deer with her car. We had herds of them on the roads in WA state. Anyway, the idea is that if you hit one, it knocks the animal down instead of over your grill. Once down, it rolls around under the vehicle until you are past it. It works. I hit a good sized dog with it hard enough to mash a stock bumper and the header and kill the dog. Instead it went down with a dull thump and under the rig. The dog lived and ran home. The bumper is aluminum, but can be duplicated with steel easily. The plate is 3/8" thick and will take a beating.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0419.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0418.jpg

[Firemanray]

I'm running a modified ARB. The monster winch that I scored real cheap wouldn't fit "in" the bumper so I made it fit "on " the bumper:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/firemanray21/IMG_3597-1.jpg

[cantab27]

with you on this topic greeno.... the arb are shit,, pain in the ass for winch set up..also for recovery's..mine has moved twice..... in for a home brew one soon....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0342.jpg

[Carves]

Gotta remember too Greeno ... The ARB is a compromise bar.

Its not a dedicated U.S. style moab crawling design that is now becoming popular/in demand ..... down here, thanks to the internet.

Its a compromise between dealing with a roo, providing better, approach angle clearance and meeting the nanny state legislation somewhat.


For the playtime offroading thats become the fad down here ...

... Our old style bars , with high & low cross bars ... which were originally intended to ensure a roo didnt come thru the windscreen ... or a wombat or an anthill didnt tear out the steering gear ... are pretty much unsuitable for the type of "trail blazing" thats become popular.

They also cause way too much anxiety these days .....

..... to those brain dead, moron, pedestrians - who are not held accountable - for blindly, stepping out in front of a moving vehicle ... :rolleyes:


Like the XJ - its an aged design .... but new & trendy .... doesnt always mean better .. ;)

Better is a bar designed to suit the actual driving requirements tho .. ;)

Lots of the yank stuff has good points to replicate in regard to winch mounting and approach angles ...

Just gotta be careful you dont get too extreme ... and attract the attention of Mr Plod and his ticket book ... who will pay less attention to something common looking, and the size of a farm gate - Compared to a gaping wheel arch, capable of swallowing small children ... ;) .. :D

[dagr8tim]

Here is one that is home built, but being down under mate, you might find this one interesting, considering the roos you have on the road. I built this one to take a hit from a good sized deer and not have any damage. Most of the roo bars I have seen pics of are just a lot of iron. But this one is built to have a great approach angle, hold a winch and deflect an animal down under the Jeep will it will do little harm. My wife got three deer with her car. We had herds of them on the roads in WA state. Anyway, the idea is that if you hit one, it knocks the animal down instead of over your grill. Once down, it rolls around under the vehicle until you are past it. It works. I hit a good sized dog with it hard enough to mash a stock bumper and the header and kill the dog. Instead it went down with a dull thump and under the rig. The dog lived and ran home. The bumper is aluminum, but can be duplicated with steel easily. The plate is 3/8" thick and will take a beating.

Not to thread jack, but any info on the skid plate?

[jccatt]

Logans metal make a good bar.

http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/id9.html

[4.3LXJ]

Not to thread jack, but any info on the skid plate?

It is a good question. I got it for $10 because the scrap yard did not know anything about it other than it came from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. I believe it is 6061 T6, which is about the same strength and hardness as mild steel. It has 2.25X.125" tubes welded to the outside. Quit tough. I have bounced it of several things from about a foot up and it doesn't give. The whole bumper weighs about 65 lbs.

[bigjim350]

What kind of terrain to you wheel on? Are you wanting to mount a winch on it?

[greeno]

Here is one that is home built, but being down under mate, you might find this one interesting, considering the roos you have on the road. I built this one to take a hit from a good sized deer and not have any damage. Most of the roo bars I have seen pics of are just a lot of iron. But this one is built to have a great approach angle, hold a winch and deflect an animal down under the Jeep will it will do little harm. My wife got three deer with her car. We had herds of them on the roads in WA state. Anyway, the idea is that if you hit one, it knocks the animal down instead of over your grill. Once down, it rolls around under the vehicle until you are past it. It works. I hit a good sized dog with it hard enough to mash a stock bumper and the header and kill the dog. Instead it went down with a dull thump and under the rig. The dog lived and ran home. The bumper is aluminum, but can be duplicated with steel easily. The plate is 3/8" thick and will take a beating.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0419.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/IMG_0418.jpg

thanks mate looks good I like the top hoop over the winch


with you on this topic greeno.... the arb are shit,, pain in the ass for winch set up..also for recovery's..mine has moved twice..... in for a home brew one soon....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0342.jpg

Yer mate I'm with you on arb bar:stars:


Gotta remember too Greeno ... The ARB is a compromise bar.

Its not a dedicated U.S. style moab crawling design that is now becoming popular/in demand ..... down here, thanks to the internet.

Its a compromise between dealing with a roo, providing better, approach angle clearance and meeting the nanny state legislation somewhat.


For the playtime offroading thats become the fad down here ...

... Our old style bars , with high & low cross bars ... which were originally intended to ensure a roo didnt come thru the windscreen ... or a wombat or an anthill didnt tear out the steering gear ... are pretty much unsuitable for the type of "trail blazing" thats become popular.

They also cause way too much anxiety these days .....

..... to those brain dead, moron, pedestrians - who are not held accountable - for blindly, stepping out in front of a moving vehicle ... :rolleyes:


Like the XJ - its an aged design .... but new & trendy .... doesnt always mean better .. ;)

Better is a bar designed to suit the actual driving requirements tho .. ;)

Lots of the yank stuff has good points to replicate in regard to winch mounting and approach angles ...

Just gotta be careful you dont get too extreme ... and attract the attention of Mr Plod and his ticket book ... who will pay less attention to something common looking, and the size of a farm gate - Compared to a gaping wheel arch, capable of swallowing small children ... ;) .. :D

Bloody plod down here :bang:
Just looking at doing a cross with the US type bar and the laws down here


Logans metal make a good bar.



http://www.logansmetals4x4.com/id9.html

you need two mate :pray:

[greeno]

What kind of terrain to you wheel on? Are you wanting to mount a winch on it?

It's will be for my club/trail car and needs a winch mount
I've been running this homemade trail bar on it just looking for something a bit more HD with winch mount and I like the look of tube bars


http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/greenojeep/whiteheap251.jpg

this ii the front bar I have ATM

[bigjim350]

Well if your bumper has good tie in mounts, I would just weld in a 2" reciever. Then buy a winch cradle for a 2" hitch. You already have a good bumper and this would save time and money.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dslkE-fzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
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[LizardRunner]

http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=232&pictureid=1989 this is in bare metal without the top done yet. but It's a pretty good one for most wheeling.

[DETOURS]

Front, is simply a modified 'BackBone' system.....stubby tube added....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Detours/eclift024.jpg

[DETOURS]

Rear, Detours SLS Edgecut......& carrier......(shown without spare)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Detours/eclift025.jpg

[greeno]

http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=232&pictureid=1989 this is in bare metal without the top done yet. but It's a pretty good one for most wheeling.

Great bar mate this is the type of bar I was after do you have any photos looking down on it

Thank you again for all the photos they are helping big time for us boys down under

[afbond03]

Serious Offroad Products:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/afbond03/IMG_20110905_160104.jpg
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=424_425&products_id=61783

[bluedragon436]

That is a nice bumper you got there Bo... I was looking at that same one.. Maybe one day!

[Mudderoy]

Serious Offroad Products:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/afbond03/IMG_20110905_160104.jpg
http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=424_425&products_id=61783

I need more lights! :D

[afbond03]

I need more lights! :D

Yea you do! I got lights underneath as well. Though if I recall correctly, you do as well. I stuck with white though.

[LizardRunner]

Great bar mate this is the type of bar I was after do you have any photos looking down on it

Thank you again for all the photos they are helping big time for us boys down under

http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=5775 this is the front bumper. The top is held in place with Dutz captive fasteners just need a screw driver or quarter to open and close. there are two holes so you can eyeball the cable as you wind in, they are chamfered with a die set from Eastwood.

[greeno]

http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=5775 this is the front bumper. The top is held in place with Dutz captive fasteners just need a screw driver or quarter to open and close. there are two holes so you can eyeball the cable as you wind in, they are chamfered with a die set from Eastwood.

Big thanks for the link mate :)
Going to start on this bar next week

[LizardRunner]

:camera: Looking forward to the build pics mate.

[jccatt]

Yip I like this design too. Any info on the winch cradle and unibody mounts?

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[LizardRunner]

Yip I like this design too. Any info on the winch cradle and unibody mounts?

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custom cradle, 1/4" cold rolled steel. The mounts are also front frame stiffners and go back as far as they can. Steering box area is also stiffened by using this type of mounting bracketry. http://www.ajsoffroadarmor.com/images/T/fbm-thumb.jpg I used this idea but extended them behind the mounting holes to cover more of the "frame rails" You can buy the ones in the picture from ajsoffroadarmor.com

I mounted the stiffner/bumpermounts then took a flat piece and welded it in between (did mark the piece and drilled the winch mounting holes prior to the weld up just because it would be easier in that order). I went with 1/4" where the strength is needed and 3/16" every where else to keep the weight down as much as possible, hence the aluminum top covers that come off with the twist of the dutz's.

I have been toying with the idea of getting one of Detours winch mounts and doing a new bumper with that piece as the begining but this one mounts it a little lower and it's tucked back. With funds needing to go to other places on da lizard, that's a very back burner idea at this point.

[hookedonxjs]

Detours backbone conversion and jcr on the rear....I wish I had took the time to call Mark before I bought my rear...both are stout, detours has more personality!http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/brian_mcdonald1/jeeptrail060.jpghttp://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/brian_mcdonald1/rearbumpa002.jpg

[hookedonxjs]

Gotta remember too Greeno ... The ARB is a compromise bar.

Its not a dedicated U.S. style moab crawling design that is now becoming popular/in demand ..... down here, thanks to the internet.

Its a compromise between dealing with a roo, providing better, approach angle clearance and meeting the nanny state legislation somewhat.


For the playtime offroading thats become the fad down here ...

... Our old style bars , with high & low cross bars ... which were originally intended to ensure a roo didnt come thru the windscreen ... or a wombat or an anthill didnt tear out the steering gear ... are pretty much unsuitable for the type of "trail blazing" thats become popular.

They also cause way too much anxiety these days .....

..... to those brain dead, moron, pedestrians - who are not held accountable - for blindly, stepping out in front of a moving vehicle ... :rolleyes:


Like the XJ - its an aged design .... but new & trendy .... doesnt always mean better .. ;)

Better is a bar designed to suit the actual driving requirements tho .. ;)

Lots of the yank stuff has good points to replicate in regard to winch mounting and approach angles ...

Just gotta be careful you dont get too extreme ... and attract the attention of Mr Plod and his ticket book ... who will pay less attention to something common looking, and the size of a farm gate - Compared to a gaping wheel arch, capable of swallowing small children ... ;) .. :D
:rolleye0012:
That's why arb and tjm are called bull bars...if you live where the deer and buffalo run you might need one...in AZ a guy hit 3 elk...he died on the scene?I know they are made to protect you down under types that come across a roo or a wombat! just kidding on the wombat!

[Weldmen]

http://www.abuncha.biz/pics/fwlights.jpg
Custom on factory bumper

[LizardRunner]

I like that Curt