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Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 12:01 PM
DETOURS Slyders (http://www.detoursusa.com/xjrokslyders.php)

After looking at some frame stiffeners and sliders, I think I'm going to go with these...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/STIFFY SYSTEM UPDATE 009SMALL.jpg

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/STIFFY SYSTEM UPDATE 012SAVE.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/SEPT5thStiifymisc031SML.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/SEPT5thStiifymisc028SML.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/SEPT5thStiifymisc020SML.jpg

The rear of the stiffener is held in by the leaf spring bolt.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/SEPT. 5th Stiifymisc 018SMALL.jpg

After speaking with Mark "DETOURS" today and seeing these pictures I have a much better understanding of how his system works.

I like the idea of the strength of these plus the ease of installation. It won't take 3 hours to weld these into place, maybe 1/2 hour for the plugs.

So I can install this at my house, drive to where I have have it welded and be done with the installation.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/SEPT5thStiifymisc014.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/SEPT5thStiifymisc023.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/SEPT5thStiifymisc026.jpg

These pictures just show the stiffeners, but I'll be getting a set with sliders (slyders).

bluedragon436
09-07-2011, 12:06 PM
I like the look of those.. Only issue I have is will these interfere with any LA crossmembers?? I think that is the main thing stopping me from looking at any frame stiffeners, unless I have someone make a set to go around the crossmember..

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 12:09 PM
I like the look of those.. Only issue I have is will these interfere with any LA crossmembers?? I think that is the main thing stopping me from looking at any frame stiffeners, unless I have someone make a set to go around the crossmember..

I asked Mark about this, and if you look you can see that these stiffeners attach to the outside of the uni body. So if the long arms attach to the bottom of the uni body it shouldn't be an issue. But I'm not 100% on that since it would depend on how the long arms were designed to mount.

bluedragon436
09-07-2011, 12:12 PM
Yeah I was looking at the pics, and I figured if I got a LA setup that mounted only on the bottom I should be good.. I guess I'll have to figure out what LA setup I'm going with.. will probably just stick with the one from Andy that I have been thinking on going with!!

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 12:15 PM
BTW after looking at the pictures above, and calling Mark back, I asked. "Do they come in red?"

He laughed and said "Get the **** out!" :rotfl2:

bluedragon436
09-07-2011, 12:34 PM
I like the plugs you can put in once the welds are done.. Don't think they would last too long though.. Yeah I think I will def look into the stiffeners w/sliders once I figure out what LA setup I'm going with..

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 12:47 PM
I like the plugs you can put in once the welds are done.. Don't think they would last too long though.. Yeah I think I will def look into the stiffeners w/sliders once I figure out what LA setup I'm going with..

I think you understood this but the welds aren't an option. Mark pointed out that if you flip your Jeep you can drill out the plug welds and move the stiffeners to another XJ.

Jeepo96XJ
09-07-2011, 01:06 PM
I kinda like these!

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 01:11 PM
I kinda like these!

Yep, I didn't really understand how they mounted until today, but I trust DETOURS. I have Mark's rear bumper with tire carrier and a custom front bumper. Great stuff. I'm sure others have great products too, but once I find a company that does quality work they have to screw up pretty bad to lose me. :D

xj4life2
09-07-2011, 03:42 PM
Those are GREAT , Finally someone has a design that is not labor intensive !! Nice job Mark !!!! So now for the hard part $$$$$ ???

Wow I got so excited I think I peed a little lol lol :)

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 03:47 PM
Those are GREAT , Finally someone has a design that is not labor intensive !! Nice job Mark !!!! So now for the hard part $$$$$ ???

Wow I got so excited I think I peed a little lol lol :)

rofl

According to his site the stiffeners alone are $295 + S&H

eking81
09-07-2011, 07:15 PM
Everything Ive seen from Detour has been great and these are no exception. The fact that the ones pictured are over 10 years old with just a fresh coat of paint tells me they hold up nicely and are well worth the money

Mudderoy
09-07-2011, 07:17 PM
Everything Ive seen from Detour has been great and these are no exception. The fact that the ones pictured are over 10 years old with just a fresh coat of paint tells me they hold up nicely and are well worth the money

Yes, I'm hoping to put my order in next week! :pray:

alwaysxj
09-07-2011, 10:43 PM
Those look really good tony, and the price is good too. I have yet to try anything out from Mark, but I know a couple of people with his stuff and they are happy with it. my problem is getting them to work with my Tera Flex long arm mounts.

DETOURS
09-08-2011, 10:41 AM
Those are GREAT , Finally someone has a design that is not labor intensive !! Nice job Mark !!!! So now for the hard part $$$$$ ???

Wow I got so excited I think I peed a little lol lol :)


Maybe I should advertise more, but I doubt I could handle the additional work load......Thankyou for the excitement, this stiffener I developed has been on the market for over 10 years, it was the 2nd stiffener ever offered retail, the 1st was the Jeepspeed stiffener which I think Currie now offers. Our design is much stiffer than the Jeepspeed offering.

The stiffener it'self, can be installed in less than 15 minutes per side.
The stiffener/slyder combo takes about 30 minutes per side.

The stiffener does has it's limitations working with some long arm systems, I pretty much work with each customer as to wether or not it'll work with their planned or existing LA system prior to accepting the sale.

I'm currently updating the product & the webpage as long arms are now much more widely available and the existing webpage lacks install instructions and detailed pictures.

Background on the silver stiffeners pictured..........this is actually their 3rd install, they were on my 2nd XJ for 2-3 years, moved over to my current XJ but never welded in place, now years later, sandblasted & repainted and installed again, now welded in place as I rebuild the vehicle. I could not find any corrosion issues when sandblasted, inside or out.....:cool:

Mudderoy
09-08-2011, 10:48 AM
Maybe I should advertise more, but I doubt I could handle the additional work load......Thankyou for the excitement, this stiffener I developed has been on the market for over 10 years, it was the 2nd stiffener ever offered retail, the 1st was the Jeepspeed stiffener which I think Currie now offers. Our design is much stiffer than the Jeepspeed offering.

The stiffener it'self, can be installed in less than 15 minutes per side.
The stiffener/slyder combo takes about 30 minutes per side.

The stiffener does has it's limitations working with some long arm systems, I pretty much work with each customer as to wether or not it'll work with their planned or existing LA system prior to accepting the sale.

I'm currently updating the product & the webpage as long arms are now much more widely available and the existing webpage lacks install instructions and detailed pictures.

Background on the silver stiffeners pictured..........this is actually their 3rd install, they were on my 2nd XJ for 2-3 years, moved over to my current XJ but never welded in place, now years later, sandblasted & repainted and installed again, now welded in place as I rebuild the vehicle. I could not find any corrosion issues when sandblasted, inside or out.....:cool:

So these only bolt on the front and back. The 4 holes in the middle are for plug welds?

Mudderoy
09-08-2011, 10:55 AM
Here is the old way of connecting to the frame. To the LCA mount.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange007.jpg

New way to make it long arm friendlier!
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange001.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange008.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange003.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange005.jpg

Slider/Stiffener combo
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/Rollingfelony/LongArmChange006.jpg

DETOURS
09-08-2011, 11:06 AM
The old connection was GREAT.......but, caused real shipping/packing issues.

The new connection is now a custom fitting 'weld' connection, I still consider the system removable/transferable though, as long as you're smart with your welds.
Also, while the new connection is geared towards long arm systems, you can still use it with short arms with absolutely no issues.

Mudderoy
09-08-2011, 11:10 AM
The old connection was GREAT.......but, caused real shipping/packing issues.

The new connection is now a custom fitting 'weld' connection, I still consider the system removable/transferable though, as long as you're smart with your welds.
Also, while the new connection is geared towards long arm systems, you can still use it with short arms with absolutely no issues.

So could there be an issue with the tire contacting the stiffener at full tilt?

DETOURS
09-08-2011, 12:17 PM
No, over all configuration of the stiffy remains like the orig. design......unless you're running 44's & 6" of lift.........lol....:headbag:

bluedragon436
09-08-2011, 01:13 PM
Hey out of curiosity.. could I run these stiffeners without getting them welded for a short time?? Also if I get the stiffeners w/sliders.. how far out past the lower rocker does the slider stick?? I am just trying to get an idea, and from the pics it looks like it is just the right amount.. but figured I'd ask..

DETOURS
09-08-2011, 01:31 PM
For a very short term, like drive them over to be welded by someone.....but not for a week running around in your Jeep..

Slyders stick out aprox: 5" from the pinch lip. (hold a tape to pinch lip)

They protrude aprox. 1/2" from your body molding on lower portion of door which is the widest portion of the vehicals body, if you dont have molding that measurement would be about 7/8"....

Mudderoy
09-10-2011, 04:08 AM
On order!!! :popcorn:

MaxxTraxx
09-11-2011, 01:43 AM
Im excited to order mine also....and a tail bonez tire carrier.

Mudderoy
09-13-2011, 02:11 PM
Ok so Mark needed some pictures and measurements because of the bushwackers. This is ONLY because he will be adding a round tube to the standard slider. Giving it that special DETOURS treatment. :D It's a custom by the way, and I'm paying extra for it. :mad0029:

Measuring from the bottom of one bushwacker to the other I come up with 52.5 inches.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-mZONZRCKGYs/Tm0joWn5ViI/AAAAAAAABL8/FhHpJ8ij-fE/s800/2011-09-11%25252015.12.47.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XcLPoXCtbcY/Tm0jhS6q9II/AAAAAAAABL4/_n85hg--ae8/2011-09-11%25252015.12.58.jpg

Mudderoy
09-27-2011, 01:46 PM
Slyders update!

Now this is just a mock up of the custom tube on the standard DETOURS slyder. Mark sent me this picture so I could give him to OK on it, you know before it got all welded up.

He is going to bend the round tube up a bit for me (as per my request) but he wanted to verify the basic shape of the additional tube.

Man these things are beefy as hell!

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/MudD 002.JPG

There will be three gussets between the round tube and the rectangular tube.

DETOURS
09-30-2011, 10:16 AM
Coping the internal tube supports........

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/COPE001.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/COPE002.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/Detoursusa/COPE003.jpg

I'd typically use a different fixture in the drill press, but by using the Bridgeport on auto pilot......I'm free to do other work. :watermelon:

Mudderoy
09-30-2011, 10:50 AM
I need more tools.... :popcorn:

4.3LXJ
09-30-2011, 11:45 AM
A Bridgeport, on my list of things to want....

DETOURS
09-30-2011, 02:57 PM
Submitted for Mudd's approval...............

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/SLYDRZ001.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/robot6nq.png

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/SLYDRZ005.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/SLYDRZ004.jpg

:watermelon:

Mudderoy
09-30-2011, 03:05 PM
Muddy like, but hey I thought it was supposed to be all diamond plate! :rotfl2:

I told him this on the phone after the first picture he sent me and Mark didn't even hesitate he just started laughing wildly! :poke:

DETOURS
09-30-2011, 03:10 PM
I gave you diamond plate 'high-lights'.......thought you'd like that.
Getting h e a v y . . . .
Dig'gin them, outter tube is at 12 degrees, should clear the Bush~Hackers......

Mudderoy
09-30-2011, 03:17 PM
I gave you diamond plate 'high-lights'.......thought you'd like that.
Getting h e a v y . . . .
Dig'gin them, outter tube is at 12 degrees, should clear the Bush~Hackers......

lol yeah I noticed, thanks!

DETOURS
09-30-2011, 04:55 PM
Alrighty, His and Her's.......

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/SLYDRZ006.jpg

I'll do final clean up & start priming tommorrow.....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/SLYDRZ007.jpg

But for now.......it's Friday!
http://youtu.be/BxgeSv88c2w

Mudderoy
09-30-2011, 05:02 PM
That's a damn nice looking set of sliders! I like the memory of my front bumper in the background a$$ well. :patriot:

DETOURS
09-30-2011, 05:36 PM
Wholey CRAP..........Did'nt even think of that, what timing!! :thumbsup:

prerunner1982
09-30-2011, 05:58 PM
Man those are PRETTY!

BlueXJ
09-30-2011, 07:49 PM
I have old school sliders and frame stiffeners............TnT stiffeners all welded and I used holes to do the rosette welding. AJ's sliders on the outside of the stiffeners. I do wish I had the outer tubing to add to mine. That looks sexy.

Mudderoy
09-30-2011, 11:39 PM
I have old school sliders and frame stiffeners............TnT stiffeners all welded and I used holes to do the rosette welding. AJ's sliders on the outside of the stiffeners. I do wish I had the outer tubing to add to mine. That looks sexy.

Seeing how Mark works in metal like a potter works in clay makes me want to try doing this myself. It's inspiring to look at.

prerunner1982
10-01-2011, 12:35 AM
absolutely...I wish I had the space...money.....time.....and talent to do stuff like that. At the moment I have none of the 4..

They look very stout as well. Some sliders look kinda iffy, not these.

bigjim350
10-01-2011, 12:45 AM
They do look good. And I expect to see them used on the trails...

DETOURS
10-01-2011, 09:40 AM
They look very stout as well. Some sliders look kinda iffy, not these.

Just about every slider out there relies on self tapping screws to hold themselves to the unibody, pretty weak in my book. Ours have always been welded & gussetted to our subframe stiffener, so it's basically a complete system with a rear spring pack mount reinforcement. They rely very little on the pinch lip connection, as a matter of fact, in the begining, there was no pinch lip connection, it was added later.

bluedragon436
10-01-2011, 10:13 AM
Yeah these sliders def. look bad a$$ that is for sure.. Can't wait to see some use of these on the trails..

DETOURS
10-01-2011, 10:25 AM
Yeah these sliders def. look bad a$$ that is for sure.. Can't wait to see some use of these on the trails..

Just to avoid any confussion, this is the same system I've been manufacturing for the last 11 years, only difference is the external tubes Tony wanted and the updated front unibody connection.

Dont try side recovery with standard slyders.....

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/corncrawler/xjuni04_lrg.jpg

It's nice to know, if ever needed.......You have the option with this system.

BlueXJ
10-01-2011, 10:35 AM
Mark do you paint them RED for certain un-named clients???

DETOURS
10-01-2011, 10:48 AM
No I do not Blue, could lean a little towards the 'tacky' side.......:o

BlueXJ
10-01-2011, 10:53 AM
No I do not Blue, could lean a little towards the 'tacky' side.......:o
Yes he can!!!!!

Mudderoy
10-08-2011, 01:07 AM
Update!

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/CT005.JPG

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/CT008.JPG

prerunner1982
10-08-2011, 12:42 PM
Not sure what is prettier... the sliders or the scenery.

Mudderoy
10-08-2011, 11:30 PM
I'm slowly getting everything fixed, or installed on my Jeep. I think I'm ready for the stiffys and slyders!

XJ4IV
10-09-2011, 12:01 AM
:beavis:lol muddy is ready for a stiffy.....

XJ4IV
10-09-2011, 12:02 AM
Update!

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/CT005.JPG

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/CT008.JPG

You ever think about aircraft design??? those things look like an awesome platform for a personal aircraft

Mudderoy
10-17-2011, 02:47 PM
I received tracking information this morning! Should see them this week, maybe first of next week (just guessing). Hopefully I'll have some nice security camera footage of the FexEx guy getting a hernia bringing them to the house. :D

dagr8tim
10-17-2011, 03:22 PM
Man those are sexy.

bluedragon436
10-17-2011, 03:27 PM
Can't wait to see these bad boys installed..

Mudderoy
10-18-2011, 10:33 AM
FedEx has them scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. That's 3 day delivery! Amazing.

dagr8tim
10-18-2011, 10:43 AM
Here's am honest question (actually 2). How much for the sliders and can I come down and watch them get made?

Mudderoy
10-18-2011, 10:46 AM
Here's am honest question (actually 2). How much for the sliders and can I come down and watch them get made?

I know these questions are for Mark, however I'll answer the price of mine. As these are custom. You can see the price of the regular slyders at http://www.detoursusa.com/

Mine were about $750 after customizations and shipping.

dagr8tim
10-18-2011, 10:55 AM
Mine were about $750 after customizations and shipping.

Thanks for the info.

Mudderoy
10-18-2011, 11:02 AM
Thanks for the info.

Yeah I was curious so I looked again... $475 is the non-customized price...

http://www.detoursusa.com/images/xjuni_main.jpg

:link: (http://www.detoursusa.com/xjrokslyders.php)

dagr8tim
10-18-2011, 11:04 AM
Yeah I was curious so I looked again... $475 is the non-customized price...

http://www.detoursusa.com/images/xjuni_main.jpg

:link: (http://www.detoursusa.com/xjrokslyders.php)

Was the only customization the addition of the round tubes?

Mudderoy
10-18-2011, 11:06 AM
Was the only customization the addition of the round tubes?

Yep. I think time and material was $175. Keep in mind I like things my way, so you gotta do it yourself or pay someone. :D

bluedragon436
10-18-2011, 01:22 PM
That still is not at all a bad price after having it done the way you want it.. and shipped!!

dagr8tim
10-18-2011, 01:24 PM
That's a damn good price.

oderdene
10-19-2011, 07:34 AM
everybody have a taste and for me this customized one is one of best design

Mudderoy
10-19-2011, 08:54 AM
everybody have a taste and for me this customized one is one of best design

I can't take all the credit of course, I just tell Mark what I have in mind and his talent and years of experience is at least 90% of the final product.

The front bumper, for example, was drawn as more of a bull bar bumper. Mark made it thinner so it would have a much better approach angle.

Mudderoy
10-19-2011, 01:34 PM
http://xjtalk.com/images/special/detoursslyders1.jpg

LizardRunner
10-19-2011, 01:59 PM
Ok I see them delivered, now it's time to get em on!

4.3LXJ
10-19-2011, 02:06 PM
Let's hear those tools working. Quit teasing.

bluedragon436
10-19-2011, 03:51 PM
He must work out.. doesn't show that he is straining much... Hopefully Tony hasn't replied yet.. because he is out busy installing them...

Firemanray
10-19-2011, 03:55 PM
Ohhh nice....what's your address and when did you say you would be home today??:D

DETOURS
10-19-2011, 07:00 PM
I dont think the FedEx guy can get past the rest of the crap on the porch....lol......he just stands and stares.....

They actually are very well priced considering you're getting a true frame stiffener, rear spring reinforcement, adjustable pinch lip connections (this area can vary) and Slyders.......shipping's abit of a killer, but ordered seperately, more than compareable..........once web page is updated, the price maybe slightly tweaked.......has'nt been tweaked in a few years and steel is way up since then........:bogroll:

DETOURS
10-19-2011, 07:02 PM
How did the creative packaging survive the trip Tony?

Mudderoy
10-19-2011, 07:58 PM
Ok I see them delivered, now it's time to get em on!

1. Paint them (2 coats at least)
2. Pull dent out of rocker panel with stud welder starter kit
3. Shape paint and attach diamond plate on the bottom of the doors, and rocker
4. Install slyders :rolleye0012:

Mudderoy
10-19-2011, 08:05 PM
How did the creative packaging survive the trip Tony?

I only saw one place where the paint had a spot rubbed off, all in all it made the trip very well.

Damn unwrapping took at least 30 minutes, perhaps longer.

dagr8tim
10-19-2011, 08:15 PM
I dont think the FedEx guy can get past the rest of the crap on the porch....lol......he just stands and stares.....

They actually are very well priced considering you're getting a true frame stiffener, rear spring reinforcement, adjustable pinch lip connections (this area can vary) and Slyders.......shipping's abit of a killer, but ordered seperately, more than compareable..........once web page is updated, the price maybe slightly tweaked.......has'nt been tweaked in a few years and steel is way up since then........:bogroll:

So Can I come down and watch mine being made?

DETOURS
10-20-2011, 07:23 AM
I only saw one place where the paint had a spot rubbed off, all in all it made the trip very well.

Damn unwrapping took at least 30 minutes, perhaps longer.

'Wrapping' them......took alot longer, you got off easy! :rotfl2:

Good to hear about the single rub through, all the loose hardware went out last evening.

DETOURS
10-20-2011, 07:25 AM
So Can I come down and watch mine being made?

I dont know about watching, but you'd save on shipping.....;)

jeepxj95
10-21-2011, 12:43 AM
I dont think the FedEx guy can get past the rest of the crap on the porch....lol......he just stands and stares.....

They actually are very well priced considering you're getting a true frame stiffener, rear spring reinforcement, adjustable pinch lip connections (this area can vary) and Slyders.......shipping's abit of a killer, but ordered seperately, more than compareable..........once web page is updated, the price maybe slightly tweaked.......has'nt been tweaked in a few years and steel is way up since then........:bogroll:

do we have to use the pinch lip connections??? or is it recomended that we do???

Mudderoy
10-21-2011, 03:07 AM
do we have to use the pinch lip connections??? or is it recomended that we do???

Mark said the original slyders didn't use the pinch seam. If it wasn't attached to the unibody through a long rectangular boxed piece of steel I don't think you would have this option.

LizardRunner
10-21-2011, 03:30 PM
1. Paint them (2 coats at least)
2. Pull dent out of rocker panel with stud welder starter kit
3. Shape paint and attach diamond plate on the bottom of the doors, and rocker
4. Install slyders :rolleye0012:

Well then, time to start the GetErdone! :D we all want to see these on the red xj ya know.:rolleye0012:

Mudderoy
10-21-2011, 03:31 PM
Well then, time's a waisting :D

Damn job that pays for everything is getting in the way. :indifferent0020:

LizardRunner
10-21-2011, 03:39 PM
Ahh well I know that one all to well myself yep yep yep, I do. :thumbsup:

jeepxj95
10-22-2011, 12:52 AM
k. mine has bad rash on one side from a recovery. dang jk driver who is our club pres. lol

Mudderoy
10-22-2011, 01:56 AM
k. mine has bad rash on one side from a recovery. dang jk driver who is our club pres. lol

I saw a Wrangler today and the cosmetic tube that was in the "slider" position was badly damaged. Looked like it had been rubbed against a tree or something. The whole tube had bends almost the entire length of it. Looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it.

I would have like to have taken a picture to show the difference between off road sliders and over prices cosmetic add ons.

Mudderoy
10-22-2011, 02:25 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NQs7DkNdDZc/TqMONSE58xI/AAAAAAAABZY/ipO1_xrgGqg/s912/2011-10-22%25252012.39.16.jpg

cantab27
10-22-2011, 02:30 PM
they are way cool.....jealous as tony...i curse the ocean and shipping prices.....

looking forward to seeing them fitted..

DETOURS
10-22-2011, 05:40 PM
they are way cool.....jealous as tony...i curse the ocean and shipping prices.....

looking forward to seeing them fitted..

I curse that ocean constantly........shippers want crating & 3 times the cost of the product to place on your doorstep.........no easy answers, except a container shared by multible 'users'.......but then again, I think a container ship just hit a reef down there........lots of lost cargo and a big...stinky...oil slick....

DETOURS
10-22-2011, 05:42 PM
They look great Tony, but bedliner should'nt be applied in direct sunlight, it can get real weird.......bubbles....????

:spongebob:

bluedragon436
10-22-2011, 05:46 PM
Sliders are looking good Tony... Did you roll that on, or use the spray can stuff?? Can't wait to see them installed..

Mudderoy
10-22-2011, 07:54 PM
Sliders are looking good Tony... Did you roll that on, or use the spray can stuff?? Can't wait to see them installed..

Spray.

Mudderoy
10-22-2011, 07:59 PM
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dagr8tim
10-22-2011, 09:55 PM
Looks awesome

jeepxj95
10-23-2011, 06:46 AM
I saw a Wrangler today and the cosmetic tube that was in the "slider" position was badly damaged. Looked like it had been rubbed against a tree or something. The whole tube had bends almost the entire length of it. Looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it.

I would have like to have taken a picture to show the difference between off road sliders and over prices cosmetic add ons.

and mine looks 3 times as bad cuz of all the rust

Mudderoy
10-23-2011, 01:25 PM
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bluedragon436
10-23-2011, 04:07 PM
Those look good and clean... Can't wait until I can add these to my complete mods listing!! Mark has certainly done a great job, once again!! Now you have to modify your signature to include the sliders/stiffners behind the other awesome Detours parts!!

dagr8tim
10-23-2011, 06:29 PM
Looks great, now go get some mud on them.

DETOURS
10-23-2011, 06:47 PM
Thoughts?
Install go as expected?
How you gonna fix the rocker now?

bluedragon436
10-23-2011, 06:52 PM
Hell with fixing it.. looks good like it is... can't even notice it really... I mean I would stop at looking at the sliders than even noticing the rockers myself!!

Mudderoy
10-23-2011, 09:08 PM
Thoughts?
Install go as expected?
How you gonna fix the rocker now?

I know you are getting tired of hear this, but it was engineered very well. Things lined up nicely. Still amazes me how someone can make something for my Jeep a 1,000 miles away and I don't have to fuss with it when I get it.

Using a floor jack I put the slyder into place and put it on the rear (front) leaf spring bolt. Then I jacked it all the way up with the brackets in place, marked the holes, dropped the jack down and drilled the holes.

Since it isn't welded yet it will be easy to remove the 7 bolts, and loosen the leaf spring bolt and either remove it, or just drop it out of the way. It drops down a good foot or more in the front where the dent is.

I have plenty of room to work putting on the aluminum diamond plate so all I really need to do is drop the driver's side, pull out the dent. Primer and paint it (rough) and then put the slyder back.

I'm having to re-learn how to get out of the Jeep.

The round tube is almost dead even with the bushwackers. If the rectangle tube was about an inch longer front and back they would fully protect the bushwacker bottoms.

I'll get a close up picture if you are interested. As it is I can see that if I have had these on not only would I not have bent my rocker, my bushwacker wouldn't have a crack, or rash on it.

Mudderoy
10-23-2011, 09:26 PM
Hell with fixing it.. looks good like it is... can't even notice it really... I mean I would stop at looking at the sliders than even noticing the rockers myself!!

I'm going to cover it with diamond plate aluminum so I need to pull it out so I have something to attach it to.

DETOURS
10-24-2011, 06:49 AM
That all sounds good to me, thanks for the feedback! :thumbsup:

Mudderoy
10-24-2011, 12:32 PM
It's a sad day. I've run out of things that I can buy from DETOURS. :drinking:

dagr8tim
10-24-2011, 12:40 PM
It's a sad day. I've run out of things that I can buy from DETOURS. :drinking:

It looks like somebody needs to do some R&D. Do you have the things you bolt on to your receiver for rear recovery points?

Mudderoy
10-24-2011, 12:57 PM
It looks like somebody needs to do some R&D. Do you have the things you bolt on to your receiver for rear recovery points?

Mark is always thinking about something new...

I don't see the point in having a recovery point in the receiver.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/jeep_photoshoot061.jpg

;) :D

dagr8tim
10-24-2011, 12:59 PM
Mark is always thinking about something new...

I don't see the point in having a recovery point in the receiver.

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/jeep_photoshoot061.jpg

;) :D

I've still got the stock bumper. I'm looking long and hard at those recovery brackets that bolt to the receiver.

Mudderoy
10-24-2011, 01:02 PM
I've still got the stock bumper. I'm looking long and hard at those recovery brackets that bolt to the receiver.

Oh I thought we were talking about me... :sign0181:

I have recovery points front, rear, and once I have the slyders/frame stiffeners welded, I'll have side recovery points! :thumbsup:

The DETOURS tailbone would be an excellent way to have a tire carrier, recovery points and still keep the stock bumper look. Love the tailbone.

dagr8tim
10-24-2011, 01:13 PM
Oh I thought we were talking about me... :sign0181:

I have recovery points front, rear, and once I have the slyders/frame stiffeners welded, I'll have side recovery points! :thumbsup:

The DETOURS tailbone would be an excellent way to have a tire carrier, recovery points and still keep the stock bumper look. Love the tailbone.

I'm liking the receiver spare tire carrier personally.

4.3LXJ
10-24-2011, 01:21 PM
I'm having to re-learn how to get out of the Jeep.

The round tube is almost dead even with the bushwackers. If the rectangle tube was about an inch longer front and back they would fully protect the bushwacker bottoms.

I'll get a close up picture if you are interested. As it is I can see that if I have had these on not only would I not have bent my rocker, my bushwacker wouldn't have a crack, or rash on it.

That is one thing I have noticed about the extended rockers. When you go mudding, you are going to get mud on your left leg when entering and exiting the Jeep.

Mudderoy
10-24-2011, 01:26 PM
That is one thing I have noticed about the extended rockers. When you go mudding, you are going to get mud on your left leg when entering and exiting the Jeep.

I'll just step on the sliders to get in and out. I'm thinking about putting some of that black sticky sandpaper stuff where I would step. One of the reasons I wanted these things sticking out.

My wife has already tried it for getting in and out. Perfect.

It's going to be great for cleaning the roof, or loading unloading the roof rack. I be I can reach the entire windshield now without getting a step stool.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pHIDg41ri_4/TqNlRTUZxjI/AAAAAAAABZw/HVXJv5uZ1QQ/s1024/2011-10-22%25252017.27.36.jpg

DETOURS
10-24-2011, 01:39 PM
It's a sad day. I've run out of things that I can buy from DETOURS. :drinking:

Do really think I'd let you get away with that statement ??? :mad:

I stills have lot's up my sleave.......just little time to pursure right now, but I predict........You'll have atleast 1 new Detours item on that rig in the upcoming months.....;)

DETOURS
10-24-2011, 01:40 PM
That is one thing I have noticed about the extended rockers. When you go mudding, you are going to get mud on your left leg when entering and exiting the Jeep.

I warned him of this.......;)

Mudderoy
10-24-2011, 01:43 PM
Do really think I'd let you get away with that statement ??? :mad:

I stills have lot's up my sleave.......just little time to pursure right now, but I predict........You'll have atleast 1 new Detours item on that rig in the upcoming months.....;)

I am happy again! :pray:

Sneedle Vision
12-27-2011, 03:25 PM
I also ordered a pair of sliders from Detours and am absolutely amazed at the quality! i asked for them to be extended out an extra inch and it was done without an issue! Mark is the man!

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/sneedlevision/Jeep%20Build/xjslider1.jpg

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/sneedlevision/Jeep%20Build/xjslider2.jpg

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/sneedlevision/Jeep%20Build/xjslider3.jpg

bluedragon436
12-27-2011, 03:44 PM
Yet another very satisfied customer of Mark's... Not that that is any huge surprise as he has some great products, and customer service!! Can't wait to get some money together, so I can be another satisfied customer of his!!

dagr8tim
12-27-2011, 03:50 PM
Man those are nice. I'd almost trade my AJ's for a set.

Mark, how far could you push the sliders out? I'd love to have enough for a step. Maybe 2 to 2 1/2 inches.

DETOURS
01-08-2012, 05:01 PM
Man those are nice. I'd almost trade my AJ's for a set.

Mark, how far could you push the sliders out? I'd love to have enough for a step. Maybe 2 to 2 1/2 inches.

1".....maybe 1.25"......after that, I'm no longer in the jig. :timeout:

Mudderoy
01-08-2012, 08:42 PM
I just took the family, well four of them, to a movie. We really haven't been out in the XJ in a while. They were all commenting on the steps I installed. My wife, 5' 2" steps up on the slyders and then sits down. Great addition for her. Now when it's wet out she'll be able to step on to the slyders, then step down without worry of getting the back of her pants wet and dirty.

They're made to be tough but they're great for the family as well!