drowned jeep ,,part 2

[cantab27]

well its finally got dunked.... buddy was using it on a all day wheeling run ...
over hood stuck i have been told .must have been deep as all seats are soaking ....water in center console ..

damage so far ,,starter motor dead ,, some wires are dead ,, cd dead ,spots dead ,( guy driving it dead :smiley-laughing021:)

have done fluids in diffs ,were OK ... scary bit is trans oil not looking to flash :smiley-scared002:
have all seats out sitting in sun ,, does run , no water in air intake ...love them snorkels ...


waiting on pics ,,,will update as i know more ....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0320.jpg


http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0321.jpg

[DETOURS]

Was it running?
Is it running?
Check oil?
Around here, that would be a postal Jeep.......lol..

[cantab27]

Na she runs Mr D ,,trans is of most concern ,,, am waiting for a buddy to call around and have a looky .. will let the rest dry out next few days ,, then start looking for the stuffed wires , etc.......fun fun fun .......

[4.3LXJ]

OOO, never loan out your Jeep. People just don't respect then like the owners.:stars:

[oderdene]

OOO, never loan out your Jeep. People just don't respect then like the owners.:stars:

2X, people never love and care like us. they see and drive very capable 4x4. and finally say - "thanks, it's a monster" :stars:

[bluedragon436]

Sorry to hear about the Jeep... is the guy who did it at least helping to fix it all, or at least some money or something for the repairs??

[cantab27]

wee update ...today about two hours ago....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0336.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0335-1.jpg

now i don't need a lecture about lending my jeep out ...trust me the Mrs has done that ......:shocker:

was driving ,at the lights in town take foot off brake wouldn't crawl forward ,almost like brake was on .... pulled over oil :pee: out everywhere ...
on the phone got towed to mates shop ...drained oil ,flushed trans 20litres of oil ..back out of shop, oil everywhere again ... coming out of the breather ,,checked it on the dip stick wait for it .........WATER ......
trans gone ...:boohoo:

[bigjim350]

wee update ...today about two hours ago....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0336.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0335-1.jpg

now i don't need a lecture about lending my jeep out ...trust me the Mrs has done that ......:shocker:

was driving ,at the lights in town take foot off brake wouldn't crawl forward ,almost like brake was on .... pulled over oil :pee: out everywhere ...
on the phone got towed to mates shop ...drained oil ,flushed trans 20litres of oil ..back out of shop, oil everywhere again ... coming out of the breather ,,checked it on the dip stick wait for it .........WATER ......
trans gone ...:boohoo:


Hey wayne im pretty sure we have a extra trans around here, come on over and pick it up :thumbsup:

J/K Sorry to hear that about your jeep.

[4.3LXJ]

Man, that is a tough break. It wouldn't be bad here with all the others sitting in the junk yard, but that is not the case in Kiwi land. Hope you get it sorted out. Better flush the tcase too.

[cantab27]

paid $550.00 a couple of years ago for a 2ND hand one ...........probably gone up in price by now ............ and i got ugly tj flares

[4.3LXJ]

Hey Wayne, is your "friend" who caused all this damage going to pay for the repairs? Or is he saying thanks for the ride, but no thanks?

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne, I was thinking. Bad, I know. But while you have that tranny out, there is an air vent tube on the top of it. When your buddy took the Jeep for a swim, I am guessing the tranny was under water long enough to cool and suck water in through the top vent. I hooked mine in with the tcase vent to a tube that runs up to the level of the distributor which is deeper than I plan on going since I still have my carpets. However when I get a marine distributor for the Chevy, that vent will go to the sealed air tube on the engine side of the air cleaner. I am suggesting you should do the same while you have it out and save yourself some grief in the future.

[cantab27]

Hey Wayne, is your "friend" who caused all this damage going to pay for the repairs? Or is he saying thanks for the ride, but no thanks?

be having a wee chat tomorrow Steve :popcorn:

[cantab27]

Wayne, I was thinking. Bad, I know. But while you have that tranny out, there is an air vent tube on the top of it. When your buddy took the Jeep for a swim, I am guessing the tranny was under water long enough to cool and suck water in through the top vent. I hooked mine in with the tcase vent to a tube that runs up to the level of the distributor which is deeper than I plan on going since I still have my carpets. However when I get a marine distributor for the Chevy, that vent will go to the sealed air tube on the engine side of the air cleaner. I am suggesting you should do the same while you have it out and save yourself some grief in the future.

yeah that thinking stuff will just get ya in the shit ....:D

we were talking a long the same lines on the way home from the shop ...

mmmm, im learning to much here :smiley-scared002:

cheers steve :thumbsup:

[cantab27]

well just got back from shop ...pulled the pan ,,cleaned filter and bits in there ,,,new gasket ,...we let it sit over night to drain ....mechanic was surprised at how good it looked in there ...... new oil again , fired up drove it like i stole around town ,,seems OK .......... plan b will be throw the other box in ...... guy who drowned it did all the dirty work , mechanic did the fine tuning bits ,i had a coffee and laid shit on em as i do ......... guy who drowned it is paying for everything ....good man .......

[4.3LXJ]

Good to hear Wayne. Make sure that tranny isn't going to quit on you in a month.

[cantab27]

found one pic ,, got more coming ..... floating here
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/2-1.jpg

[rguignard]

it dont look to bad

[cantab27]

floated then sunk to over hood ,,, was talking to the dude who pulled it out ...... said they are heavy pos when full of water lol.......

[cantab27]

righto then part 2...

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat002-1.jpg

am going to add to this as i do things , trans is gone this time.. have one we are going to change over.... fluids will be checked,, at the moment its out in the sun drying the inside....wires are up the shit , but engine is sweet, pulled plugs all good...

so if ya want to add to check list be my quest:drinking:.....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat005.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat003.jpg


poor baby, this will be done over a few weeks as work gets in my way...

ps...that water was cold:rotfl2:

[4.3LXJ]

Did you just get into the water and then have it quit? That water looks like it was above the breather.

[cantab27]

shut it down as i was floating,,,wasnt going anywhere and i knew i was starting to sink...they fill up fast...lol

[4.3LXJ]

You need instant pontoons on it so you can just keep going.

Or you need one of these. It is green

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARh2eW6m-Is&feature=related

[bigjim350]

Well atleast you got towed home by another XJ.

[cantab27]

Well atleast you got towed home by another XJ.

yep a green one too

[bigjim350]

Personally I think its the TJ flares that sunk your Jeep :D There is a chance that your transmission will work after it has some time to dry out.

[cantab27]

na oil looks like milk... and wont shift

[cantab27]

winch off, seats out..seats are heavy when wet,,go figure:eek:..honda lights pulled apart and drying....need new head lights, very wet in behind dash..no indicators....... cd player still works water stopped just under there....glove box full of water..:thumbsup:..have checked in the doors , they drain well,,,, should have seen the water come out of the exhaust when i fired it up.... no cat helps there.... will video next time i drown it and fire it up...tis unreal.....

[cantab27]

nice to post stuff jeep related and not shake related....

[4.3LXJ]

winch off, seats out..seats are heavy when wet,,go figure:eek:..honda lights pulled apart and drying....need new head lights, very wet in behind dash..no indicators....... cd player still works water stopped just under there....glove box full of water..:thumbsup:..have checked in the doors , they drain well,,,, should have seen the water come out of the exhaust when i fired it up.... no cat helps there.... will video next time i drown it and fire it up...tis unreal.....

Might want to replace your O2 sensor, they don't like water.:pray:

[cantab27]

oil is the wrong colour....:mock:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat011.jpg

dont tell anyone but was water in here....:cheerleader:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat012.jpg

shes slowly drying out..:D

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat007.jpg


http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat013.jpg

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gotta swap trans.....RIVER run coming up........:innocent0002:

[msmoorenburg]

Hey while you at it move the tranny and tc vent tubes up. They stop just below the head, If you can keep the j bends in the hoses, The next time around you may be better off.

[4.3LXJ]

Better yet, plump them into your snorkel

[xj4life2]

Hey Wayne don't forget to check the front and rear diffs and the transfer case, Man that was some bad water made the steering wheel move to the other side lol lol I think you need water wings for that rig. Oh before I forget be sure to flush that motor out real well,we just put one back together after it went swimming the cust never flushed it and water got under the main bearings and took out the crank. Good luck my friend !!

[Mudderoy]

I fixed it for ya Wayne...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/wayneflip.jpg

[OrangeXJ]

I think you can get rid of the fire extinguiser. There is nothing in there dry enough to burn. :rolleye0012:

[Mudderoy]

I think you can get rid of the fire extinguiser. There is nothing in there dry enough to burn. :rolleye0012:

I think he uses that as a thruster to get the Jeep moving in the direction of the shore! :rolleye0018:

[cantab27]

I think you can get rid of the fire extinguiser. There is nothing in there dry enough to burn. :rolleye0012:

i have had it out once in anger,,,,, i threw it at a yota..:D

[cantab27]

must of dried out more , all lights bell and whistles working again... have had nice warm days all week.... some strange noises coming from a couple of pullings,, ie ac pump ....but hey easy fix...show my boy the pic, he says we have been deeper,, may have to seal dizzy up.....

[cantab27]

well after a good look and a bit of thinking, shes gonna be of the road for a bit...have a leak by the trans cooler, and oil leaking from front axle, it did a funny shuddering noise like thing from left front when driving it home under braking...now oil flows from that side...:watermelon:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt2001.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt2003.jpg

shes getting full in the back

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt2004.jpg

will also give me time to sort the bar out once and for all, and pull winch down again.......:rolleyes:

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt2005.jpg


will give the cooling system a birthday, has boiled twice out on the trails :comfort:

after market trans cooler, new seals for front diff, may have lsd to go in there , mate with 4wd shop looking into that for me....
new ac pump again ,3rd one, they hate water,, thoughts on that anyone???

swap out the trans , :D

any thoughts as to what else i could do why i have trans out.......

will get new water pump plus radiator flash...

anything else i should do for cooling system why i have apart..???

and thoughts on the bar ...ray you have same bar, may do what you did as its a pain to get at winch.....:smiley-gen165:

just waiting on my mate to get his pos tj of the hoist and will start.........:comfort:

please feel free to add on what else i should do why apart

and telling me to stay outta rivers is not advice...she will swim again:ass:

[4.3LXJ]

Green Jeeps go in green water, right? I see you want to get better access to the winch. Thought you might. Show me a pic of it all together Wayne, Maybe I can think of something for you. Give me a good close up of the box it sits in.

[cantab27]

Green Jeeps go in green water, right? I see you want to get better access to the winch. Thought you might. Show me a pic of it all together Wayne, Maybe I can think of something for you. Give me a good close up of the box it sits in.

anygood or more pics steve??

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt3003.jpg

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http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt3004.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Show me one with the bar on The Jeep

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne, do I see this right. The foot of the winch bolts against the front of the bar?

[cantab27]

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0336.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0334.jpg

[cantab27]

Wayne, do I see this right. The foot of the winch bolts against the front of the bar?

yes sir,,,,, might run it past god on cf..:D

[4.3LXJ]

You will have to keep a low center of gravity.:D

Been studying this a little.

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt3001.jpg

I would cut along the top of that joint above the fairlead and up the sides and back over the top and expose the whole winch. I would want to do this as wide as the winch is. Then put in a plate on the bottom that is tied into the rest of the bumper and plate up the inside to the top. That should give you plenty of access. Then drill the new plate for the foot of the winch. 1/4" steel should do the trick and still deflect the roos if you go to Aussie

[4.3LXJ]

P.S. You could also put a plate up the back if you wanted.

[cantab27]

You will have to keep a low center of gravity.:D

Been studying this a little.

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterratpt3001.jpg

I would cut along the top of that joint above the fairlead and up the sides and back over the top and expose the whole winch. I would want to do this as wide as the winch is. Then put in a plate on the bottom that is tied into the rest of the bumper and plate up the inside to the top. That should give you plenty of access. Then drill the new plate for the foot of the winch. 1/4" steel should do the trick and still deflect the roos if you go to Aussie

thats what i want to do, but arb has a warning about cutting and hacking there bars,,,,,will find out more, theres a arb sales dude on local forum will pm him....

[4.3LXJ]

Is this due to warranty issues? What kind of warranty do they have?

[cantab27]

to do with airbag.... but i think i can do away with airbag as jeep is over 14 years old... will find out on Monday, if i can ,i may sell that bar and get new one fabbed up...something i can have a hand in

[cantab27]

on the list is a new exhaust , got the crack up by the engine..... was a pic posted just the other day but cant find it,,mines in same spot.....

[4.3LXJ]

to do with airbag.... but i think i can do away with airbag as jeep is over 14 years old... will find out on Monday, if i can ,i may sell that bar and get new one fabbed up...something i can have a hand in

Yeah, looking at it it looks like they were worried more about production costs than actually using a winch. I like my winch all out in the open so I can get to it easily.

[cantab27]

anyone heard of this make radiator????

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/chrysler/engines/auction-403181882.htm

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/141023002_full.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Sounds like a two core brass and copper. That would be the standard heavy duty I think.

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne, if ya have a copper and brass radiator, those can be rodded out by a radiator shop for a lot less.

[Carves]

anyone heard of this make radiator????


Here ya go ---> http://www.silverdaleradiators.co.nz/about-us.html


Lazy Sod .... improve your googlefu :p .. :D


Wouldnt surprise me if its the same "made in thailand" radiator that AdRad sell over here .... and similiar can be got on e-bay for about a $100 less.


If it is the same one .... 2row / 13 fin per inch spacing .... It works pretty good .... but I did have a pinhole leak happen in the top hose fitting - at about 12mnths ...... but was a warranty freebie fix - coz I paid the big bucks to AdRad.

[cantab27]

[QUOTE=Carves;88669]
Lazy Sod .... improve your googlefu :p .. :D


/QUOTE]

:D:D
love ya work, ya gonna fit it here just fine....cheers mate;)

[Firemanray]

Wayne- Since you like to fiord the deep water you could move your winch to the top of the bumper like mine ( same bumper ). ARB would probably throw a rod if they saw it! I've pulled some tough stuff with this set up (ask BigJim).
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/firemanray21/installcomplete.jpg
I have some details in my build thread.

[XJ4IV]

I fixed it for ya Wayne...

http://xjtalk.com/images/special/wayneflip.jpg

Im on my work computer or I would have done that myself LOL
the FIRST pic of this I was like DUDE wheres his leg room, I couldnt wheel like that... then I noticed oh yeah WAYNES jeep is bass ackwards

[XJ4IV]

although it DOES look funny with the t-case hump on the passenger side

[XJ4IV]

on the list is a new exhaust , got the crack up by the engine..... was a pic posted just the other day but cant find it,,mines in same spot.....

yeha EVERY XJ exhaust manifold is like that... if its cracked then its cracked at the collector, I have one that is like that and one I picked up at the shop for free... Im going to weld it and reinforce it with more steel around all the pipes ... then when I replace mine I will fix the other one and sell it...and charge a core price so I can keep doing it... HOPEFULLY! if not hey at least MINES fixed right!!!

[4.3LXJ]

Im on my work computer or I would have done that myself LOL
the FIRST pic of this I was like DUDE wheres his leg room, I couldnt wheel like that... then I noticed oh yeah WAYNES jeep is bass ackwards

Yeah, but now he is in real trouble. Tcase has a right hand drop. What axle is he running anyway?