Got Me a Winch

[cantab27]

well got offered a deal i couldn't say no to today ,,, a 12,000 pound electric winch :D..... brand new in the box ,,guy sold his truck had no use for it so i got it for $500.00,,,,, $1200 or $1300.00 worth of shit in that box ,, plasma rope as well...
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0280.jpg

:drool::drool:
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0281.jpg

and the best bit a remote ,,plus has the plug in one as well
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0282.jpg

will do a write up when fitting to the arb bar :thumbsup::thumbsup:

no doubt i will need help fitting that little sucker ...

[bassackwards]

good deal can't wate to see how it works

[rguignard]

well got offered a deal i couldn't say no to today ,,, a 12,000 pound electric winch :D..... brand new in the box ,,guy sold his truck had no use for it so i got it for $500.00,,,,, $1200 or $1300.00 worth of shit in that box ,, plasma rope as well...
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0280.jpg

:drool::drool: http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0281.jpg

and the best bit a remote ,,plus has the plug in one as well
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0282.jpg

will do a write up when fitting to the arb bar :thumbsup::thumbsup:

no doubt i will need help fitting that little sucker ...

look at them feet :smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021:

[bluedragon436]

Awww you got ripped off on that POS... you should def. just go ahead and ship it to me for proper disposal!!! LOL... Looks like a pretty decent deal you got there...

[4.3LXJ]

Score!!:smiley-whacky084:

[PolarXJ]

Sweet deal... What brand is it?

[4x4Dalton]

Great deal Wayne. Now if it doesnt fit yers Im pretty sure it will fit mine ...:smiley-laughing021:

[Firemanray]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[4x4Dalton]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Theres 1 more post for ya Ray :rotfl2:

[cj4a nz]

sod you lot :D
I can PICK the winch up when he finds it don't fit or I will prob end up helping him fit it :sad0147: must get mine mounted
love the appropriate colour of the remote (in the shit) hard to find in the mud thou

[4.3LXJ]

sod you lot :D
I can PICK the winch up when he finds it don't fit or I will prob end up helping him fit it :sad0147: must get mine mounted
love the appropriate colour of the remote (in the shit) hard to find in the mud thou

It does look like plumber brown.:D

[cantab27]

sod you lot :D
I can PICK the winch up when he finds it don't fit or I will prob end up helping him fit it :sad0147: must get mine mounted
love the appropriate colour of the remote (in the shit) hard to find in the mud thou

losing the remote wont be a problem ,,, as i don't do mud ,,,,,,,,,:D

[4.3LXJ]

losing the remote wont be a problem ,,, as i don't do mud ,,,,,,,,,:D

:DYou could paint it Barbie Pink

[cantab27]

righto then ,,, fitting time :smiley-scared002:... im thinking it will be easier to take bullbar off and fit it up then put bar back on ,,,, any thoughts ,,,, its a arb bar :thumbsup:

[4.3LXJ]

righto then ,,, fitting time :smiley-scared002:... im thinking it will be easier to take bullbar off and fit it up then put bar back on ,,,, any thoughts ,,,, its a arb bar :thumbsup:

If you have an engine hoist that works. That is how I do mine. However I know that Bull Bar has to be heavy.

[cantab27]

yep ,, may need a second pair of hands me thinks .... i know bar is heavy , plus the winch not lite either .........

[cj4a nz]

got a engine lifter at work!!!!!!!!!
and a weekend worth of work i'm guessing doing your place or keiths? he has lifter I think

[sofixj]

nice flip flops and how come i cant find a deal like that in NJ!!!

[modestmar00xj]

yeah man good find but what brand is it?

[cantab27]

china special lol

http://www.pre-maxwinch.com/proshow.asp?page=3&BigClassName=&SmallClassName=&ThreeClassName=&flag=

[cj4a nz]

believe it's fitted and BEEN USED :sad0147: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smiley-laughing021:
pic's man pic's

[cantab27]

in here bro ...... run on sat , waipara river not sure if going heaps still a bit sick

http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=5549

[LizardRunner]

very nice, sweet deal on a 12000 winch too.

[Mudderoy]

very nice, sweet deal on a 12000 winch too.

When I first got my 9,000 lbs winch I was concerned how the bumper would hold it and adding that much weight might damage my suspension. :pee:

[cj4a nz]

now we have proof it works( pinched from another website)
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/cj41jeep/th_Picture053.jpg (http://s406.photobucket.com/albums/pp150/cj41jeep/?action=view&current=Picture053.jpg)
is that some body hiding behind the jeep??

[cantab27]

na tying to another truck ,,,jeeps abit lite when it comes to winching 80 series out

[cantab27]

i think i know the answer before i ask...put it in the engine bay...BUT:p
Ive just pulled solenoid box for winch apart, and funny enough it has moister in it......:D its mounted on the flat bit on the arb bar...just about 3/4 grill height...is there a good way of sealing the box up, cause for the mean time that's what I'm gonna do as got a run next weekend and don't think i will find the extra leads i would need in broken ch ch.....this has not been in the water but it did sit in there the time it was drowned awhile back.. i didn't check it then like i should have:crazy:....it worked good as last time out as we winched the yota 80 series out,,that's a big heavy pos.....:rolleye0012:
thoughts.....there is a marine grease i could use?????
dont think you can see moister in pics
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0446.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0448.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0447.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne

If you seal it, every time you hit the cool water it will get condensation in it. You might consider mounting it high in the engine compartment and let the engine heat keep it dry.

[cantab27]

Wayne

If you seal it, every time you hit the cool water it will get condensation in it. You might consider mounting it high in the engine compartment and let the engine heat keep it dry.

good point on the sealing it up.....well will put it in engine bay,,, will see if i can find longer leads durning the week.....cheers

[Weldmen]

You could pull a big rig out with that thing Wayne!!!

[cantab27]

pull this thing outta a sink hole.....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture052.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture057.jpg

[cantab27]

righto solenoids all clean and dry...no broken wires or shit....still justs clicks , no movement..... so maybe its winch its self.....should i now pull this apart, and any tips..

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne, take some jumpers and go directly from the battery to terminals on the winch motor and see what you get. It should spin the motor.

[cantab27]

ok ,,will do that

[cantab27]

nothing happened steve dead

[4.3LXJ]

Sorry to be slow, wifey on the net. There is one other thing you can do. Take a little effen hammer and tap on the end of the motor. Sometimes the brushes can get stuck. If that doesn't work, you may need to take it apart. Might be a little of the river in it.

[cantab27]

well got it inside now,,,will pull apart tomorrow, getting cold and dark so enough for today....put bar back on so jeep is mobile.... dont think it will be much ,was working had it pulling rope back in and just stopped and started the clicking shit.....thanks Steve....
will post pics of it apart..........KEEP IT GREEN .....

[4.3LXJ]

That is what my Mile Marker did. No drama. Kicked it around on the shop floor and threatened to take it apart and it started working again. Sticky brushes.

[cantab27]

well hooked it up gave it a couple of love taps and it went,,be it slow but...then stopped again....think I'm gonna pull it apart but have no idea how,,,anyways its one of these
http://www.pre-maxwinch.com/showpro.asp?ArticleID=1030

[cantab27]

have taken these two bolts out ...see the rust

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0455.jpg

now do i undo these ,,x3

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0456.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Wayne, those oar torx screws. Takes a torx bit for the ratchet. But you don't want to remove those. They hold the fields in. The end cap should be all you need to remove to access the brushes that are sticking.

[cantab27]

cheers steve...5.30am here ...will have a go after work.....stay tuned

[4.3LXJ]

I will be here if you need advise. I would recommend removing the motor completely if you can. It should unbolt from the body. There will be a shaft that goes through the drum to the gear box on the other side. Should come freely apart from the main part. The thing those torx bolts hold, called the fields, make an electric magnet when the current is passed through them. The armature also makes a selective magnet with parts going on and off as it rotates. The motor works strictly on magnetic attraction. So after you pull the armature, if you want you can pull the fields and paint the inside of the case. But make sure that they can make good contact with it or your winch will not work. Use some waterproof grease in the bushings on either end of the armature. You can use a sparing amount of dielectric grease on the brushes, but only a little because it conducts electricity. I am talking a thin film here to keep the brushes free. That you could tap it and get it to work indicates the brushes are not moving freely. Solve that problem and you will be good to go.

[cantab27]

two bolts out but wont split ,,as in the top wont come off....

[4.3LXJ]

Is that all the bolts there are? Pics please

[cantab27]

couple of little screws on the side....give me 10 mins and will post some mate

[cantab27]

top does turn, can i pop it off????

couple of screws ..

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0457.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

yes

[cantab27]

righto hang on then......now where did i put my bfh

[cantab27]

mmmm,,yuk....this all comes back to lending heep out and the drowning..never again..

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0458.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0459.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Glad you got it apart. Certainly savable. Those things with the heavy copper wires on them are the brushes. That is what was stuck. The lower one in the pic does not look like it is making good contact. Might need to free up the copper wire a little for it.

[cantab27]

yep ...may sound dumb but same sort of set up for starter,,as in bushes and such...just rebuilt starter on jeep not long ago....everything still looks new in there be it a wee bit rusty...pull apart futher or 20 litres of crc,,wd40

[4.3LXJ]

You got it Wayne. It is a starter motor, only reversible.

[cantab27]

righto then,,,one end done clean put back together,,,just popped top off for gears,,,grease is green like in colour,,,dosnt seem to have had water in there,,pic makes it look bad ,,might just pop lid back on and see if it goes....
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0461.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

That would look much better with blue grease

[cantab27]

um scratch that last post,,we have water in there....how the hell would i clean this mess up......

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0463.jpg
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0462.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

The first thing I would try is an oil catch pan with a gallon of diesel and a parts cleaning brush

[cantab27]

progress

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0464.jpg

not sure how to pull rest apart,,,may try and clean as is .....time for supplies

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0465.jpg

[oderdene]

Remove the lever (engage/free) on top, it has small side bolt. Then it will out itself :D

[oderdene]

looks pretty with blue grease :D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_51ciAr6dNJM/TTK7KY85F_I/AAAAAAAABdQ/oRR15dRK4KU/s1600/IMG_0179%2B-%2BCopy.JPG

[cantab27]

well sorted ,,,just have to put it back on the heap.......thanks guys;)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0469.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0470.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0471.jpg

[cantab27]

well back on the jeep and working well

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0475.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0476.jpg

[4.3LXJ]

Good job mate. Better keep the hammer in case it does it again. And don't loan it out again

[cantab27]

cheers Steve....gotta love sites like this....world of knowledge money saved and another job i can do on the heep.....

[4.3LXJ]

Happy to help mate

[cj4a nz]

OOHOOOHOOOH CAN i BORROW NEXT WEEKEND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
use the soft seal on it and the lanacote??
got your stuff sitting here for ya $$$$


oderdene
that a russian print paper under the pretty blue gears?

[cantab27]

yes i did mate.....give ya a call during the week

[cantab27]

looks pretty with blue grease :D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_51ciAr6dNJM/TTK7KY85F_I/AAAAAAAABdQ/oRR15dRK4KU/s1600/IMG_0179%2B-%2BCopy.JPG

what kind of winch are you running oderdene.......

[jccatt]

Good job Wayne. Handy write up for winch water issues. :cool0016:

[oderdene]

OOHOOOHOOOH CAN i BORROW NEXT WEEKEND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
use the soft seal on it and the lanacote??
got your stuff sitting here for ya $$$$


oderdene
that a russian print paper under the pretty blue gears?

no, mongolian. we use same cyrillic alphabet.

[oderdene]

what kind of winch are you running oderdene.......

this one is warn xd9000

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_51ciAr6dNJM/S6h13mgOAlI/AAAAAAAABJY/VVTKRVloJFI/s320/IMG_4351.JPG

[cantab27]

nice,,do you use it much....

[cantab27]

well it don't go again.....sure looks pretty on there but....think its a power problem... not to worried at the moment as not using jeep much,, will have a look at a later date...am surprised as winch is green and its on a green jeep... bet its the red power lead..

[Mudderoy]

well it don't go again.....sure looks pretty on there but....think its a power problem... not to worried at the moment as not using jeep much,, will have a look at a later date...am surprised as winch is green and its on a green jeep... bet its the red power lead..

I'm starting to worry about you. :rolleye0012: :crazy:

[cantab27]

lol.... hey... no it is a power thing not red or green... i think i may have to run two batteries..have a lot of stuff running of one ?????? thoughts

[4.3LXJ]

If you paint that lead green, it will be backwards :D

I think it is a brush thing again. Did you use a little dielectric grease when you put the brushes in the last time?

[cantab27]

yep i did steve,,, will strip in down again in the next week or so...stay tuned

[jccatt]

Good tip for batteries is to make the main a heavy duty and run off it, secondary is then used to start if other is flat. Main is closer to altenator and will always charge faster.