Who loves the junk yard? But what can we get there?

[TheWeiss]

In an effort to compile larger threads that include similar information. What are some goodies that XJ owners can pick up at the junk yard aside from replacement parts? I know I'm looking for new front and rear ends. What make, models and years should I be looking at? While looking for these what other goodies are out there for those who look? Please feel free to use this thread for any other items that can be found and used in the Jeep builders place of solace.

[rguignard]

i know steering box off of a dakota will fit and a grand cherokee alternator will give you more amps :thumbsup:

[4.3LXJ]

Any Saginaw three or four bolt right hand of the frame steering box will fit the XJ. There is one out of a V8 Dakota that has a larger piston in it and is an upgrade. There are a number of electric fans, some from a Taurus that work well. Ford 8.8" rear ends out of Rangers work well as an upgrade. Brackets off the YJ 4.0 work well to move the alternator up out of the mud. ZJ disc brakes bolt on.

[BlueXJ]

Many newer XJs have the 29 spline 8.25 Chryco rear axles. In fact if you don't mind a little fabbing you can use one from a Libby and you get rear discs too.

[Mudderoy]

Disc brakes from a Dana 35 Grand Cherokee to upgrade your Chrysler 8.25 to disc brakes.

[4.3LXJ]

Let's not forget those S10 rear springs

[GT MOTORSPORTS]

Ok I need clued in on these S-10 spings? Im getting ready to buy another XJ and need to know what kinda options the S-10 leaves will give me!! Thanks for any info.

I know that you can source a Dana 44 out of an isuzu amigo/trooper,and they have factory disc brakes,4.56 gears,and coil springs if you want to get flexy. The down fall is you have to change wheels to 6 lugs. But thats ok because if you find a front Dana 44 waggy axle it will be 6 lug also..

Maybe a 97+ exhaust manifold..supposed to be less prone to cracking.Good swap for the older cracked manifolds.

Or grab the whole engine as the 96+ is supposed to have a better head on it.

Rubicon edtion TJ's have a factory Dana 44 in the front and rear.

Or how bout the 4 cylinders XJ's had 4:10 gears. Some of the High Pinion 35's had bigger u-joints...drawing a blank on which years..

Chevrolet Vortec v-6/v-8's make good swaps...

How bout swapping seats..I remember my 89' had so wierd rocking style seats..didnt dig those at all. My 99' has some nice seats...

Or how bout swapping steering wheels..ditching the new air bag wheel for an older model..i say this for the trail only rigs..dont want to get flamed for taking away safty stuff..just would hate to had another bag blow up in my face...still have a scar from that..

How bout wheels..I know you may never find bead locks but ranger,mustangs,crown vics, some dodge trucks(early years), dodge rwd cars,toyota 2wd trucks all share the 5x4.5..or 5x114.3 metric bolt pattern..may be able to find some cool wheels..

same goes for the 6 lus..toyota,99 up chevy 1/2 ton trucks(both 2+4wd) chevy trucks from as far back as 47' to present 2+4wd trucks had them until 73 then only the 4wd had 6 lug till 99 to present, Jeep 1/2 tons, all nissan trucks, Mazda trucks till 94', isuzu trucks till they thought they were S-10's.

I think thats all I have for now..

Greg

[4.3LXJ]

Look for the early S10 heavy duty rear spring. You can get 3-4" by substituting the bottom three leaves with the XJ main leaf. Cut the eyes off the S10 main and use it for 5-6" lift.

[GT MOTORSPORTS]

Nice! what do I look for? You say heavy duty do you look for big arch?

[4.3LXJ]

Three arched leaves and one flat

[GT MOTORSPORTS]

Ok. So look for any S-10 that has the 3 main leaves and the over load, so a total of 4 springs. Just wanting to make sure I get the right ones! Thanks again!!

[tbone]

Ford Bronco II wheels will fit also. My directional mags are off an 86 Bronco II. :thumbsup:

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/tbone64_2009/MyJeep006.jpg

Yeah I know they are pointed in different directions. Put best 2 tires on the front before we noticed the wheels.

[4.3LXJ]

Those are called blades. I have a set off a Toyota also.

[Captain Ruggy]

Hood vents are always a good find. I have LeBaron vents but there are others that will work as well.

[TheWeiss]

I've heard that you can pull the shroud with 2 fans from a 1995-1997 Ford Contour or Mercury Mystique that can be trimmed to fit the XJ radiator. The articles I've read are from dudes who zip tie them on.

How about more suspension stuff. MJ shackles, ZJ parts...?

[jefro442]

hey everyone im the new guy

[jefro442]

i have a 95 jeep cherokee and the engine is going bad. i want to swap n a low mileage late model. does anyone know if how new of a 4.0 engine can i swap n?

[rguignard]

i have a 95 jeep cherokee and the engine is going bad. i want to swap n a low mileage late model. does anyone know if how new of a 4.0 engine can i swap n?

any obdI engine can be used going by this 91 to 95 is obdI 96 on is obdII and im not sure what you have to do to make the newer ones work ??? but i bet someone on here will know :thumbsup:



Close. 1984-1990 w/AMC engine are pre-OBD.

1984-1986 w/GM V6-173 are OBD-I (GM control setup.)

1991-1995 are OBD-I (Chrysler)

1996-2001 are OBD-II (Chrysler)


i just found this look it over and see what you think
http://www.cj-8.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-21540.html

[4.3LXJ]

any obdI engine can be used going by this 91 to 95 is obdI 96 on is obdII and im not sure what you have to do to make the newer ones work ??? but i bet someone on here will know :thumbsup:



Close. 1984-1990 w/AMC engine are pre-OBD.

1984-1986 w/GM V6-173 are OBD-I (GM control setup.)

1991-1995 are OBD-I (Chrysler)

1996-2001 are OBD-II (Chrysler)

To make an OBDII engine an OBDI engine you have to swap the externals such as complete intake, fuel injection, distributor and exhaust and make sure the crank position sensor fits. I think you can't go past 1999, the last year they used a distributor.

[XJ4IV]

This is a great thread

[W.O.R.P.Offroad]

Ford 8.8" rear ends out of Rangers work well as an upgrade.

its not the ranger 8.8 its the explorer one that does. the ranger one is even more narrow than the explorer and its already .75" on each side narrower. plus the ranger is drum where the 95+ explorer is disk.

[W.O.R.P.Offroad]

also the k5 blazer leafs to make a bastard pack. i used 2 leafs to make net about 3" of lift and it still flexes like crazy. f150 or v8 GC front springs get you about 3" lift. 99+ xj or tj 4.0 intake mani gives more hp. better flow design. 91+ radiator and misc parts to convert renix xj's to open cooling system. and when i can think of more i will post them

[TheWeiss]

Can anyone tell me is the 27 spline axles in the C8.25 can be swapped out for the 29's? Is this a direct switch? I'm an engine guy so work on the rear end (or front for that matter) is going to be a new experience, preceded by lots of reading and probably even more dumb questions.

[4.3LXJ]

Yes id you swap the diff side gears also. Those are what the axles are inserted into inside the carrier.

[W.O.R.P.Offroad]

easiest way is just swap carrier and shafts. as long as you have the same gears you should be able to swap the carrier without any adjustments. carriers are machined and so are the inside of the housing. factory installed parts should go from housing to housing with out to much mods. the 4.10s i have in mine are out of a yj housing and everything went right in no shims or anything where changed

[96xj]

i know steering box off of a Dakota will fit but is it a direct swap and is there a certain year , or the newer the better ?

[rguignard]

i got this off naxja

Hey guys, I was looking for that J20 steering box with the 3.5 inch end cap Bones was talking about and I couldn't find one anywhere. So, I called this steering rebuilder guy to see what it'd cost to rebuild a used one if I located one at a salvage yard.

This guy really came through for us! He knows his stuff and has been building these 3.5 inch boxes and modifying them with the hydraulic assist ports for a few guys building rock buggies for years he said.

Here's what he suggested for our XJ's: !Use a steering box from a '99 Dodge Durango/Dakota!!! He pulled a rebuilt one off the shelf for me and we compared it to my core. EVERYTHING was the same except for the larger piston and chamber! It has the correct 3 bolt tabs - not 4 like the J20, and the steering shaft input, the pitman shaft and the threaded hose ports are all the same as the XJ's.

He said it's easily drilled and tapped to accept the additional lines for a hydraulic assist ram if you're looking to go that route.

out the door with the rebuilt box for $175!!! He even swapped my pitman arm over to the new box for me!

The box is bolt up and accepts your original hydraulic line fittings which is what makes this swap very easy. The only mod you have to do is fab up some spacers to put in between the frame and the box. The best way to do this is to cut some steel tube (I believe I used 3/4" diameter) and weld that to the back of each mounting tab. Then weld a washer to the end of the tube to give a nice flat platform for the box to press against when bolting it to the frame. You'll need new grade 8 bolts that are 1/2" longer too

btw the box is from a 4wd '99 Durango

heres a good right up on how to do it

http://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/durango-steering-box-upgrade-3805/

Hope this helps!

[wildcat]

i snagged a full length door pocket off an older Trooper. on my 2-door they run from the rear of the speaker grill to the curve in the door. looks like they were made for it. prolly wont work on a 4-door.