How big is this lift?

[dandrews64]

Hi folks, bought my 95 XJ used (first XJ) and it came with this lift. It needs shocks, so I need to know how big the lift is. I was guessing visually it's 4 in front and 3 in the rear, but the rear shackle bracket is a full 6 inches bolt to bolt on center, as is the control arm drop. What is the OEM shackle length and control arm drop? The front spring spacer hockey puck is about 1.5 inches. Thanks in advance, all help and opinions are welcome. I have much to learn.

[4.3LXJ]

Welcome. That is an interesting combination there. I am guessing those are T Bird coils on the front and I don't know what those leaves came from. To figure it out, measure from the center of the hub to the flare and subtract 17" for front and 17.5" rear. If the fenders have been cut out, measure from the hub to the ridge in the body above the flares and subtract 22" front and 22.5" rear.

[dandrews64]

Welcome. That is an interesting combination there. I am guessing those are T Bird coils on the front and I don't know what those leaves came from. To figure it out, measure from the center of the hub to the flare and subtract 17" for front and 17.5" rear. If the fenders have been cut out, measure from the hub to the ridge in the body above the flares and subtract 22" front and 22.5" rear.

Thanks I'll give that a shot

[4.3LXJ]

Let us know. Don't be a stranger

[jonb8]

Got any pics of jeep, what size tires are on it?

[dandrews64]

30x10.5x15

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[dandrews64]

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[dandrews64]

Welcome. That is an interesting combination there. I am guessing those are T Bird coils on the front and I don't know what those leaves came from. To figure it out, measure from the center of the hub to the flare and subtract 17" for front and 17.5" rear. If the fenders have been cut out, measure from the hub to the ridge in the body above the flares and subtract 22" front and 22.5" rear.

22" front, 20" rear - which would imply only a 2.5" lift in the rear, and 5" front. Odd combination, but maybe that's what it is.

In your post, are you saying the method to lift the rear is not a longer shackle bracket, but swapping the leaf springs themselves for a "taller" set?

4 Wheel Parts guy suggested measuring shock length mount point to mount point and using that to order the correct size shock. Those measurements came in at 21" front, 20" rear. Gonna go with that method I think.

[prerunner1982]

22" front, 20" rear - which would imply only a 2.5" lift in the rear, and 5" front. Odd combination, but maybe that's what it is.

In your post, are you saying the method to lift the rear is not a longer shackle bracket, but swapping the leaf springs themselves for a "taller" set?

4 Wheel Parts guy suggested measuring shock length mount point to mount point and using that to order the correct size shock. Those measurements came in at 21" front, 20" rear. Gonna go with that method I think.

That doesn't look like 5" of lift to me, I have 4.5 lift coils on the front of my 93 currently sitting on 30"s and have more clearance between the fender and tire than you do. Also if there was that much difference in lift from front to rear you would have noticeable squat going on in the rear.
The rear setup you have is both longer shackles and different leaf springs, stock XJ springs don't have that 2nd leaf wrapping upward like yours... or at least as far as the ones I have seen.

[dandrews64]

Good information, thanks. There is some sag in the right rear vs. left. By a couple inches. Hoping that's a blown shock, and not a leaf spring issue or we all know what the next project is going to be. ;-)

[prerunner1982]

You could benefit from some shackle relocation brackets as well. It would bring the back up another 1.5" too.

[4.3LXJ]

I understand your confusion about the difference of front to back. The stock XJ from the factory had the rear up about 2" higher than the front. Over time the rear settles that distance and most assume that it is supposed to be level, and then lift it accordingly and use the front lift to talk about lift height. As far as shocks go, you should measure the extended length needed and give those measurements to someone like 4Wheel Parts. That is the "approved" way

[dandrews64]

So new ProComp ES9000 shocks are installed (nothing fancy). Clearly these Ranchos with ZERO rebound were toast.

Also, spec seems to call for full travel of 24" F 22.5" R and the Ranchos were 21"F and 20" R.

Haven't driven it yet because the driver seat is being redone, but the sag in the right rear appears to be gone.

[4.3LXJ]

Good shocks help for sure