Drum Brake Help

[TallGuyJeep]

Over the weekend i wanted to swap in my new rotors in the front and shoes in the back. Fronts went in lickety split, the rear was a different story...

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/be3cca5aa3a38c1455d1ff294fffefe6.jpg

Long story short everything came apart fine but after finally getting everything together right the lever that "clicks" on the self adjuster screw sits about 1/16th inch below where it needs to be, allowing the self adjuster to spin freely. Any advice? I have spent every evening this week after work assembling and dissasembling, but the problem persists. I have bought new springs and new self adjuster kits for both sides. Tonight i am putting in new wheel cylinders because with all the fuss i put a hole in one of the rubber ends. [emoji14] i figure i might as well anyway while I'm in there so i don't have to worry about it later.

As always thank you for any help, and all advice is welcome. :)

[4.3LXJ]

Either you have the wrong shoes or you have the spring and clip in the wrong hole. Show me a pic

[TallGuyJeep]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/facff0ac2b9fdc136b946a28f1b5c58b.jpg

Only after pic i have. I can get better ones tonight.

[TallGuyJeep]

I'm pretty sure all the springs are in the correct place, i hadn't even thought about having the wrong size shoes though...

[TallGuyJeep]

Just looked at the reciept the new shoes are 9 inch

[4.3LXJ]

What I need is a pic of what is happening on the bottom And 9" shoes probably won't cut it

[TallGuyJeep]

Ok, i figured. I'll post one up in a bit, just got off work.

[XJ Wheeler]

XJs came with two options for the rear brakes. 9" (most common) and 10". Not sure if there were specific years they had the 10" brakes but I have only seen them on one '89 2wd. For what it's worth that looks like the 9" version.

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[TallGuyJeep]

Ok, this is what i have going on. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/81a91f2d9c0a4380ce7da1b44e46e22f.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/f762a463ee3af18214a99ffc1cdf28a1.jpg
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/8e06d491d4a413c092b28d89ddcdfd2e.jpg

This is the passenger side. You can see in the first pic the lever is off just a tad

[Carves]

Have a look at this ... in case its the same issue I had ??





Things to watch out for .....

The adjuster lever doesnt touch the sprocket properly ...

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Repairs/Rear%20Diff%20Swap/2305201338d_zpsbeb69146.jpg


.... that's probably coz the self adjuster cable guide, isn't flush on the brakeshoe.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Repairs/Rear%20Diff%20Swap/2305201335d_zpscc34c74d.jpg


Make sure the retaining plate is up on the shaft properly. The self adjuster cable probably wont - depending on the shaft length.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Repairs/Rear%20Diff%20Swap/2305201336d_zpsb9f1dc4a.jpg

[TallGuyJeep]

You sir... I mean mate ;) ... Are a genius. That did the trick. What a bugger that was. Now to tear it all apart again to put in the new wheel cylinders... [emoji14]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/d6b480a759b4b11e80ab489445dd1dee.jpg

[Carves]

You sir... I mean mate ;) ... Are a genius. That did the trick. What a bugger that was. Now to tear it all apart again to put in the new wheel cylinders... [emoji14][/IMG]


Hahhh ... If a genius is someone sitting on a cold concrete floor at 1am in the morning, yelling and swearing at a Chryco brake assy - whilst skinning their knuckles on crap ....


.... yep ... thats me .. :D


Theres a few little tricks that the workshop manuals dont cover .. :(


Glad you got it sorted .. :thumbsup:

[nickyg]

Glad you solved the problem.. Drum brakes always give me a fit too.
From what I understand the 10 inch brakes came on the law enforcement models.

[XJ Wheeler]

Glad you solved the problem.. Drum brakes always give me a fit too.
From what I understand the 10 inch brakes came on the law enforcement models.

The '89 that em was a red sport model. It was a 4.0l 5speed, maybe that matters.

[TallGuyJeep]

Glad you solved the problem.. Drum brakes always give me a fit too.
From what I understand the 10 inch brakes came on the law enforcement models.
That's what the guy says the parts store was saying too. After this i would love even more to do the rear disk brake conversion. That would be really nice.

[TallGuyJeep]

Well i ended up taking the jeep to a mechanic to put the wheel cylinders in. The brake lines were rusted on so i couldn't get them off, plus i figured it was a good idea to have a proffesional look at them after the work i did... Brakes are scary... Put new brake drums on too, so the whole drum brake assemblies are brand new. :)

[nickyg]

Good call.
Nothing wrong with calling in a little back up from time to time.
Safety first. Or in my case safety third, after food and clean underwear


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[myjeep]

Glad you solved the problem.. Drum brakes always give me a fit too.
From what I understand the 10 inch brakes came on the law enforcement models.

mine are Missouri police axles and are 9 inch.

[TallGuyJeep]

That's interesting, i wonder why some are the different size.

Five months later the jeep stops like a pro!