How to remove rear doors.....when torqs are stripped...

[rabies]

ok now that i have your attention. the torqs arent really stripped.
they are completly rusted in and ive broken 2 brand new T-40(proper size) socket thingies they wont budge.
i have a 98 4dr.
i have the front doors off.
i cant get a 4 1/2" angle grinder with cutting blad in there to cut hinge pins.
i cant get a sawzall blade of any length in there right.
i cant cut the hinge bolt head off with cutting wheel without destroying hinge peice itself...

anyone with this same problem? whats the trick?

i have a dremel but it frign dies on me anytime theres too much trq put on it.:bang: plus have to cut at an angle

they are right at the angle you cant use a hacksaw blade either.

[bluedragon436]

I would say see if you can get some kind of PB blaster spray not he bolts, and honestly if nothing else, take the door panels off and spray the bolts from the inside with PB blaster... let that set for a little bit, and do it again and let it set... Outside of that, about the only thing I can think of was to get a new carbide cutting type bit for the dremel and take it slowly...

[4.3LXJ]

I have a die grinder with carbide bits for stuff like this. But barring that, heat, cool and repeat a bunch of times. Oderdene just used this method to free bolts. Get then red hot if possible

[cantab27]

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/720Easy20Outs_zpsc1117995.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/jeepin%20and%20bits/720Easy20Outs_zpsc1117995.jpg.html)


if ya can get a wee drill bit in there .....

[bigjim350]

My solution.....
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/66782_461734007422_5935125_n.jpg?oh=a4680e305d62a9 0b9aba164d32284970&oe=545E9170

[slvmart]

Have you tried a t40 impact socket ?
This is just an example, I have never dealt with this outfit so I am not recommending them : http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/GPC-1200T.html

But the previous remedy may work the best, it may be a bit of overkill. :rolleye0018:

Heat the hell out of the bolts, they will likely walk right out. Although the stress of the door on the hinge may make it a little harder than I imply. You might want to support the door to remove some of that stress on the hinges, while you work on it.

[4.3LXJ]

So who do you know that has a 3/8" impact? Sounds kind of fishy to me

[bigjim350]

I have a 3/8" impact.

[4.3LXJ]

I know they exist, but not generally seen. Generally they are small butterfly versions without much torque. Just saying this set might not be what it is cracked up to be. I like to replace those torx bolts as soon as possible because they tend to strip

[slvmart]

3/8" impact wrenches are available, almost, anywhere where you buy decent quality tools. So nothing fishy about it, unless not having one in your own bag of tricks, makes something fishy. :bang:

And this one is not a butterfly type but pistol grip.
http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-3-8-in-pistol-grip-impact-wrench/p-00919981000P?prdNo=6&blockNo=6&blockType=G6

I'm sure if you have impact socket adapters you can upsize, for more torque. Those adapters are also pretty common.

[4.3LXJ]

The part that bothers me is if the T55, which is a good sized bolt, stand up to very much torque, or if these are just another set of regular torx bits relabeled.

[slvmart]

I would suggest buying form somewhere that offers a exchange policy. Amazon and Craftsman are usually pretty good. And yes, cheap Torx bits are usually very brittle and snap like a tooth pick, if they are subjected to a lot of torque.

But then, there is always, Snap On ... where 1 bit will cost you almost $50. Not sure if that's a good remedy either, unless you use them all the time.

[rabies]

can't use an impact. not enough room

[slvmart]

Sounds like it's time to pull out the torch.

[bruggz351]

I have a die grinder with carbide bits for stuff like this. But barring that, heat, cool and repeat a bunch of times. Oderdene just used this method to free bolts. Get then red hot if possible

I agree, with the heat bizniss...

Also, do you an impact driver ?? I love mine...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/ImpactDriverWithBits.png/1024px-ImpactDriverWithBits.png

.... and if you do, use it while the heat is still in there... don't wail on it, just like driving a nail home.
Not sure if there is room to use it on the hinges though...:confused:

HTH

cheers

[Carves]

Heat is probably the best bet.

Not enough room in there for impact drivers.


One of these might work to cut the heads off .....

http://www.vektools.com.au/store/images/Dewalt-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-Front-Angle%20PIC%203.jpg


Make sure you have good blades tho ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OBQUlmBawo

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[rabies]

making progress with the dremel. teh vibrating saw thing i have one just no good blades
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[bruggz351]

Heat is probably the best bet.

Not enough room in there for impact drivers.


One of these might work to cut the heads off .....

http://www.vektools.com.au/store/images/Dewalt-Oscillating-Multi-Tool-Front-Angle%20PIC%203.jpg


Make sure you have good blades tho ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OBQUlmBawo

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Do these actually work??

I thought they were like a danoz direct thing... without the the free steak knives.:rolleye0018:


cheers

[rabies]

they work reall good on wood. makes trim corners alot easier.
but on metal of course like all saws you have to have a good blade.
they are made for heavy n thick steel though.
if you have arthritis itl kill your hand

[Carves]

making progress with the dremel. teh vibrating saw thing i have one just no good blades


You have more patience than me,

... by now I would be ready for the BigJim style .. :D



Do these actually work??

I thought they were like a danoz direct thing... without the the free steak knives.:rolleye0018:


cheers


Great little gadget ... I only bought a Worx brand one ... but everybody elses, good quality blades, fit it .. :D

Not really meant for "steel" work ... but hey ... you do what you gotta do ??

Worx = Rockwell in the U.S. I think ??

[slvmart]

How about a coarse metal cutting blade on a air saw ? The air saws really do work well. But I haven't had occasion to use one on anything beefier than sheet metal.