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[4.3LXJ]

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[denverd1]

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[Ramrod310]

Thanks for the welcome!

I am new to the jeep community. I just picked up a 1993 jeep cherokee 4x4. It already has a 4" lift, rear disc brakes. the motor has been rebuilt with an aftermarket header (runs good!).

It is also stuck in 4x4! I'm not sure where to start to fix this problem, I tried driving back and forth to get the 4x4 to disengage but no luck. It shifts from 4H to 4L without a problem.

If some one could point me in the right direction that would be great!

[bluedragon436]

:welcome: to :xjtalk: and to Jeepin, from Delaware!! As far as the shifting out of 4WD, not too sure, but I am sure some of our experts will chime in here shortly as they wake up...

[4.3LXJ]

First thing. I would suggest is with the vehicle in park, jack up one front wheel a little. Try to spin it. If it turns freely it is out and the indicator light switch is stuck. If it doesn't, then jack up the other. This is to verify if you have a locker. If both spin in the same direction, then you so and it os out. If they spin in the opposite direction, then it engaged. Then let us know and we can go from there

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[Ramrod310]

thanks for the reply!
Ill try this out when I get home from work!

[Ramrod310]

I jacked up one side and it did not spin, Same for the other side. When I had both front tires in the air they spun in opposite direction.

[4.3LXJ]

It sounds like it is engaged then. Do you know if the. PO was in the tcase for a slip yoke eliminator install or anything like that?

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[Ramrod310]

PO? I don't know anything about the jeep really. It is my first jeep, I picked it up used about a week ago and the guy didn't give me much information about that.

[4.3LXJ]

The reason I ask is that sometimes when a weekend wrencher gets into these transfer cases they lose a little spring or don't know where to put it. That little spring is all that shifts it out of 4WD

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[Ramrod310]

Makes sense. Where exactly would this spring be located? Is it easy to replace this spring?

thanks

[4.3LXJ]

Makes sense. Where exactly would this spring be located? Is it easy to replace this spring?

thanks

The spring is located behind the shift rail and goes inside a hole in the rear half of the case. You will have to disassemble the case to replace it.

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[JeepFreak]

Since you're new to Jeeps, I have the Chilton handbook guide on how to do a LOT of things to your Jeep since mine is a 1994 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4WD. Same thing as your Jeep practically. Since you may not know how to remove the TC, here's the Chilton instructions:

1) Shift the TC into N (Neutral)
2) Raise and support the vehicle safely
3) Drain the Lubricant
4) Matchmark and remove the front and rear driveshafts
5) Raise and support the transmission with a floor jack
6) Remove the rear crossmember
7) Disconnect the speedometer cable
8) Disconnect the linkage
9) Disconnect the vent and vacuum hoses and the indicator wire
10) Support the transfer case with a transmission jack. Make sure that the case is secured to the jack with chains.
11) Remove the case to transmission bolts
12) Pull the case rearward to disengage it and lower it from the truck.

To Install:

13) Raise the transfer case into position. Tighten the bolts to 26 ft lbs (35 Nm)
14) Connect the shift linkage at the case
15) Connect the vacuum hoses
16) Install the driveshafts
17) Install the rear crossmember. Tighten the crossmember to frame bolts to 30 ft lbs (41 Nm); the transmission to crossmember bolts to 33 ft lbs (45 Nm)
18) Remove the transmission floor jack
19) Connect the speedometer cable and vent hose
20) Connect the shift lever link at the operating lever
21) Fill the case with lubricant. Lower the vehicle.

And that's it. Now it might seem like a lot of work but it's actually not that bad. Mostly just a bunch of marking, taking pictures, and tightening to the right specs along with connecting everything correctly. Now it may also be a problem with your shift range lever and I have the way you can fix that too if need be. They have step by steps in here too.

[Ramrod310]

excellent information!
So the spring is the only reason I'm having this problem?

Is there a possibility something is wrong with the vacuum lines or system? I just want to cover all bases before dropping the tcase.

thanks

[Ramrod310]

http://www.xjtalk.com/album.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

It appears that there is something disconnected?

edit: seems my picture is not working. I uploaded a photo into my album
http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

[JeepFreak]

excellent information!
So the spring is the only reason I'm having this problem?

Is there a possibility something is wrong with the vacuum lines or system? I just want to cover all bases before dropping the tcase.

thanks

Like I said, it could just be your Range Control Linkage. The only problem is there's a couple different ways this is configured...4 ways to be exact. Since you're the only one that can see the vehicle, you would have to go under the car yourself and identify which one of the configs it is. BUT I can offer this; my XJ is one model year newer than yours and has only PART TIME 4WD which means that it has the NP-231 model TC. Most Part Time 4WD XJ and ZJ's had this TC as their model. That being said here are the instructions for adjusting/removing the RCL for an NP-231 TC:

1) Remove the shift lever bezel (inside your car THAT gear shift)
2) Place the range control lever in the 4 LOW position
3) Insert a 1/8 in (4mm) spacer between the forward edge of the shift gate and the lever
4) Hold the lever in this position with tape
5) Raise and support the vehicle safely
6) Loosen the trunnion lock bolt. The linkage rod should freely slide in the trunnion.
7) Position the linkage rod so it is in the free range lever. Tighten the locknut.
8) Lower the vehicle, remove the spacer.

Game on :D

[bluedragon436]

To me it looks like there are some vacuum lines that should be connected to that portion:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4622663792_debe154f62.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4622038213_a33a2b8f12.jpg

[JeepFreak]

According to Chilton there ARE vacuum lines on the TC so you need to figure out where the rest of the hoses went and reconnect them. If I am to understand this correctly, the vacuum is what causes it to shift out of 4WD.

[4.3LXJ]

http://www.xjtalk.com/album.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

It appears that there is something disconnected?

edit: seems my picture is not working. I uploaded a photo into my album
http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

http://www.xjtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=558&pictureid=3858

Yes, your vacuum lines ti the front axle disconnect are not there. However since you have already confirmed the disconnect is permanently engaged when you jacked up the front wheel this is not an issue you need to worry about. It would be good to confirm at this point that linkage is adjusted properly adjusted. Loosen the adjustment screw on the rod that goes forward after putting it in the low range position. Then manually make sure the shift lever on the case is in the proper position and re tighten.

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[Ramrod310]

Based on the information above I think I have adjusted the linkage properly, it did not solve the problem. Only thing left is the spring?

[4.3LXJ]

I think so.

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