What kind of off roading do you do with ur XJ

[mudslut]

WHAT kind of 4-wheeling do you do and what state ....me I live in Cleveland tx all mud here lots of fun that's why I picked the name mudslut

[mudslut]

post pics if u have any

[EekGirl96]

Here in AZ its mostly rocks, boulders and waterfalls, fun stuff

Not into mud....too dirty and damaging lol

[jimmixj]

I'm in AZ too...all rocks, dirt and wicked cowtrails leading God knows where

[jimmixj]

Where is that picture taken Amber? One of these days I'll have to check out Phoenix trails.

[mudslut]

I'm in AZ too...all rocks, dirt and wicked cowtrails leading God knows where

very NICE.........GOOD PIC

[EekGirl96]

Where is that picture taken Amber? One of these days I'll have to check out Phoenix trails.

My avatar was taken at Sycamore, theres a trail called Rocker Panel Pass that pretty much all boulders and rocks...got a couple nice dents on that trail...

[denverd1]

A little mud is fun in my book. Burying my jeep is not... been into rocks and hill climbs lately.
http://i.imgur.com/BrONTSVh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PozLTuuh.jpg

[cantab27]

i dont wheel ......hate mud

[mudslut]

nice pics...............texas mud only for me

[ekaybe]

I do city wheeling. By this I mean if I see something cool while I'm driving down the road you best believe I'll go check that shiz out.

[prcjeep]

I'll wheel in whatever i come across, except if I know it will be deeper enough to come inside, i enjoy having carpet and no stink

I definitely prefer the rocks and things that require technical tire placement, however i'm not one to be shy about bouncing off the rev limiter going through mud... I just don't frequent it as often.

[NW99XJ]

Mud isn't all that fun for us, especially up here with this Oregon clay.
When wet it's more like slick peanut butter.
Sticks to everything, doesn't clear out too well,
and gives you NOTHING for traction, ...it's even worse when it's on the rocks.
Up here in Oregon, we get a little bit of everything....

Snow
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h328/jbchill1/NAXJA%20NW%20Fest%202013/IMG_2813.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h328/jbchill1/IMG_2147.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/jbchill1/media/IMG_2147.jpg.html)

Rocks
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h328/jbchill1/Jolly%20Jeepers%202013/IMG_20130720_112812.jpg (http://s1104.photobucket.com/user/jbchill1/media/Jolly%20Jeepers%202013/IMG_20130720_112812.jpg.html)

1999 XJ -Rock Crawling Airplane Hill Filter - YouTube

And yes.... even some of that mud.....
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/c/10/nbku.jpg (https://imageshack.com/i/0anbkuj)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9206/saddleup2b.jpg



Wherever we go, the views are always amazing:
http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h328/jbchill1/NAXJA%20NW%20Fest%202013/IMG_2799.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/959/img1565qi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/img1565qi.jpg/)

[Carves]

People from oregon ... should be banned from posting scenery pics .. :p

;);)

:D


.... as for me .... I seem to spend a lot time playing in creek crossings.


:o ... :smiley-laughing021:


http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/02062013/0206201321b_zpsadcc1fc2.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/02102012/031012-Tracks03b.jpg

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http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/23062013/2306201358b_zpse99ec588.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/30112012/Dry01b.jpg


oooopss .... a wet one .. :shocker:

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/Coolah%20Tops%2023-11-2013/100_4798c_zps90c33da6.jpg


http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/Pillaga%20-%20Nth/100612-33b.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/Pillaga%20-%20Nth/100612-48b.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/250411c.jpg



but mostly ...... the little grocery getter - does a lot of this ....... :D

















http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/Trip%20Pics/Dubbo%2019072012/Mall01b.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n629/carves-oz/MaitlandMallCrawl.jpg

[Brasscatz]

You can see my avatar and that was taken at Creekside up in Splendora. Planning another trip to some park around here soon, you should join us. Oh, and there's some rocks to play in at TORR in Huntsville.

[nickxj94]

Rock crawling, hill climbs, occasionally rock bouncing when I get pissed and can't make something.

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most these places are in Arkansas, the TJ first pic is Superlift ovr in hot springs, second TJ pic is Disney, Oklahoma. Toyota is at Byrd's adventure center couple of my buds rigs.

[Firemanray]

Sometimes rocks:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/firemanray21/Shilo015.jpg

Sometimes mud:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/firemanray21/Creekside001.jpg

[XJ Wheeler]

The backyard... for now. :D

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Hope to hit some rocks/trails this next year. Probably well into the year though.

Sent via messenger pigeon - i talk, he types.

[jimmixj]

My avatar was taken at Sycamore, theres a trail called Rocker Panel Pass that pretty much all boulders and rocks...got a couple nice dents on that trail...

Niiiice! I like the name! We have a trail in Reddington called The Flipper because its an off-camber run that tends to flip highside. I haven't run it yet but watched a guy in an X go up it like it was a 2 lane highway. After the holidaze my friend and I are planning a trip to Phoenix to check out your trails. Maybe we will see you and yours there!

[jimmixj]

Here's a shot of the Squeeze also in Charlou's Gap.

[EekGirl96]

Niiiice! I like the name! We have a trail in Reddington called The Flipper because its an off-camber run that tends to flip highside. I haven't run it yet but watched a guy in an X go up it like it was a 2 lane highway. After the holidaze my friend and I are planning a trip to Phoenix to check out your trails. Maybe we will see you and yours there!

Florence has some fun trails that range from moderate to advanced...I would definately find some time and go there :)

Sadly you wont see me and my xj, xj has been gone for months now and currently the only running 4x4 is my libby (hopefully I'll have my waggy up soon!!)

[jimmixj]

Nice photos...and SIDE wheelin!

[jimmixj]

Florence has some fun trails that range from moderate to advanced...I would definately find some time and go there :)

Sadly you wont see me and my xj, xj has been gone for months now and currently the only running 4x4 is my libby (hopefully I'll have my waggy up soon!!)

Bummer! Still, it's the people that bring the spirit, XJ is just the transport vehicle. I will definitely PM before we head that way!

[EekGirl96]

Rocks

http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/IMG_60574582154705_zps60a58721.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/AGarcia89/media/IMG_60574582154705_zps60a58721.jpg.html)
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae24/AGarcia89/IMG_60593425127385_zpsa70b4b60.jpg (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/AGarcia89/media/IMG_60593425127385_zpsa70b4b60.jpg.html)

I really wish that my phone didnt get rid of almost all of my photos of my xj when I switched from my old phone to the one I have now, I would have much more action pics to post :(

[Andrew XJ]

where I live it's mostly rolling Sandhills and mud.

but next weekend I'm going to go rock crawling and I'll see how much I like that because that's what my Jeep was built to do.

[mudslut]

just tell me when im up for it.....

[nickyg]

Here's a video I made a while back of the type of Wheeling I do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59VrM6i-YY

[cantab27]

ill wheel anything ...mud , rocks , rivers , small animals , mother in-laws....

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/stuck.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/stuck.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/11-12-08_2027.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/11-12-08_2027.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image096.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/Image096.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/101_0222.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/101_0222.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/untitled.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/untitled.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/webphoto2.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/webphoto2.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/73228_1566514437589_1077266167_1567880_4658794_n.j pg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/73228_1566514437589_1077266167_1567880_4658794_n.j pg.html)


http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/Image0513.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/Image0513.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0310.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/jeepin%20and%20bits/Image0310.jpg.html)

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture011.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture011.jpg.html)


http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture006.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/jeepin%20and%20bits/Picture006.jpg.html)

sometimes it goes pear shape ...:smiley-laughing021::smiley-laughing021:


http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat002.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/jeepin%20and%20bits/waterrat002.jpg.html)



and now im doing winch comps in the v8 Barbie jeep...........:smiley-taunt002:



http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/cantab27/westport%202012/069.jpg (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/cantab27/media/westport%202012/069.jpg.html)

[Brasscatz]

Lol, hard to beat the type of wheeling nickyg does in that video, but I have time to add some stuff in so here we go! Most were taken at Creekside, possibly some DSO mixed in

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/IMG_524197667589995_zps313551d9.jpeg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/IMG_524197667589995_zps313551d9.jpeg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Creekside%202013/Picture028_zpsb7e76a7f.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Creekside%202013/Picture028_zpsb7e76a7f.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/IMG_7016157871129_zpsa6fc051b.jpeg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/IMG_7016157871129_zpsa6fc051b.jpeg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/download_20130804_105022_zps4ce1cece.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Red%20Bandit%20XJ/download_20130804_105022_zps4ce1cece.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Creekside%202013/IMAG1394_zps05f153b6.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Creekside%202013/IMAG1394_zps05f153b6.jpg.html)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/thestalliontruck/Creekside%202013/IMAG1397_zpsc017cb25.jpg (http://s356.photobucket.com/user/thestalliontruck/media/Creekside%202013/IMAG1397_zpsc017cb25.jpg.html)

Houston Cherokee Club at Creekside(14) - YouTube

Houston Cherokee Club at Creekside(9) - YouTube

Houston Cherokee Club at Creekside(11) - YouTube

[4.3LXJ]

We mostly wheel rocks, because that is what we have here, like this little pebble

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Fordyce%20Trails/Signal%20Peak/IMG_1360.jpg

But we have lots of stuff like this. I like the remote over the popular trails

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Rubicon%20Trails/Hell%20Hole%20Trail/IMG_0616_zpsfa5be420.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Rubicon%20Trails/Hell%20Hole%20Trail/IMG_0607_zpsba6b0758.jpg

We like getting in to the wee little tooth picks like this one

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Fordyce%20Trails/Aug%202012/IMG_1590.jpg

And high mountain lakes

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Fordyce%20Trails/Aug%202012/IMG_1586.jpg

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/Fordyce%20Trails/Bowman%20Lake/IMG_1384.jpg

Old growth forests

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu215/warriorsuspension/High%20Lakes/2012-08-04_15-10-00_291.jpg

I wheel snow, but the camera had the shakes from the cold, sand, but too busy getting a tan at the beach for pics:D

[nickyg]

Ummm Wayne, I think your biggest problem in this picture is that hat.

[cantab27]

Ummm Wayne, I think your biggest problem in this picture is that hat.

um that's my favourite hat........:smiley-taunt002:

[jimmixj]

Okay...funny caption contest! Uh, Honey? I think the waters supposed to go in here!?!

[jimmixj]

PS Last time there was that much water here in AZ was that 40 days flood thingy!

[jimmixj]

:DPS Last time there was that much water here in AZ was that 40 days flood thingy!

[mudslut]

they are trying to installe the snorkle NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 2 late

[Brasscatz]

Ummm Wayne, I think your biggest problem in this picture is that hat.

Have you seen the cost of tin foil in New Zealand??? Way cheaper to go with other materials :P

[bad luck]

I'm really into mall crawlin, but you have to be really dedicated, since the closet mall is 115 miles away!

[cantab27]

there is a tinfoil hat under that one .......redneck carwash OPEN .....

[cantab27]

they are trying to installe the snorkle NOW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 2 late

snorkel in ,,,saved engine...cost me a trans but ........:rolleye0012:

[4.3LXJ]

Need a trans snorkel :D

They sell those on Ebay right?

[nickyg]

there is a tinfoil hat under that one .......redneck carwash OPEN .....

It's a little known fact that Tin Foil reflects probing rays while wool absorbs it. So I'm afraid by lining your wool hat with foil your sorta cancelling the other out and all your left with is some funny looking head gear.

Here's a link you might find helpful.

Tin foil hat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jimmixj]

Hey Josh, That was a wicked cool video bro. I appreciate a wheeler who is not afraid to do geo-bodywork! Is your XJ locked on both ends?

[NW99XJ]

Hey Josh, That was a wicked cool video bro. I appreciate a wheeler who is not afraid to do geo-bodywork! Is your XJ locked on both ends?

Thanks man!...no body work needed on that run (thankfully).... but I've had my fair share of body damage from trails. (see my build thread for a sweet step by step of how to wreck your header panel on the trail - lol)

But to answer your question, no I am only locked in the front (Spartan Locker)
The 8.25 is still open, but that will change soon enough too.

[mudslut]

weld it....lockers are over rated best way is on youtube they use a plate on one side and norm. weld on the outher....claim it wont brake

[4.3LXJ]

weld it....lockers are over rated best way is on youtube they use a plate on one side and norm. weld on the outher....claim it wont brake

I have to disagree with that one Gary. Josh lives in the land of the temperate rain forest. A welded rear end will likely break loose in the corners in wet days, which is most of the year. I used to live up there and had a friend who got rid of his Vette for that reason. Undriveable on rainy days in sharp curves

[cantab27]

weld it....lockers are over rated best way is on youtube they use a plate on one side and norm. weld on the outher....claim it wont brake

have you driven one welded up ...........lockers over rated .......ya doing it wrong then ...........:rolleyes:

[nickyg]

I don't have any of that stuff yet. It's really not needed to handle the ruff terrain at the wlamart. but when I do get "locked" I think welded front. and a locker in the rear is the way to go. am I wrong?

[cantab27]

I wouldn't run a welded front .....but hey that's just me .....

[4.3LXJ]

I don't have any of that stuff yet. It's really not needed to handle the ruff terrain at the wlamart. but when I do get "locked" I think welded front. and a locker in the rear is the way to go. am I wrong?

Just fine. You will handle those straight drives just fine. Corners? :smiley-laughing021:

[jimmixj]

Thanks man!...no body work needed on that run (thankfully).... but I've had my fair share of body damage from trails. (see my build thread for a sweet step by step of how to wreck your header panel on the trail - lol)

But to answer your question, no I am only locked in the front (Spartan Locker)
The 8.25 is still open, but that will change soon enough too.

That explains it! Saw the way that mule climbs but couldn't figure out the tire smoke from the rear axle in the first part of the video! Well played...LOL:xjtalk:

[mudslut]

I forget some times that most of you guys drive on the street my xj is not street legal off road only..my bad

[mudslut]

Just fine. You will handle those straight drives just fine. Corners? :smiley-laughing021:

just try welded or lockers in the back first your steering is change when you do the front most pep can handle the diff.

[mudslut]

welded and lockers are the same effect lockers cost more money...........

[mudslut]

have you driven one welded up ...........lockers over rated .......ya doing it wrong then ...........:rolleyes:

whats the diff.. between the two same effect.......:D

[nickyg]

I forget some times that most of you guys drive on the street my xj is not street legal off road only..my bad

My jeep leaves the street all the time. once it was on purpose, but mostly it's unintentional.

Couldn't resist the joke.

[cantab27]

I forget some times that most of you guys drive on the street my xj is not street legal off road only..my bad

now ya tell people after saying ya should weld there diff.......:smiley-scared003:

[jimmixj]

A differential is designed to accommodate the difference in turning radius between two ends of an axle when going around corners. This works great when traction is not the primary concern but does allow power to be transferred to the non-tractive wheel. On the other end of the axle spectrum is the "live axle" which is solid from one end to the other, hence all power is transmitted to each end equally. This is an ideal setup where traction is the primary concern but sacrifices drivability.
There are various means of addressing this issue, but they fall into 3 basic categories; Limited Slip, Lockers and spools. A spool is a simple device that eliminates the differential altogether thereby locking the 2 axles together in phase, creating a live axle. This is also the end result of a "Lincoln Locker"; by welding the differential spiders you have locked the axles in phase and eliminated the differential action. Advantage: awesome power transfer to both wheels equally. Disadvantage: Drivability suffers greatly and LOTS of wear points; tires first, then axles, drivelines, etc. One important note; a live front axle WILL try to drive you wherever it is pointed.
Next are the Limited Slip and Locker type differentials; as the name implies these are both differentials so they do allow varying wheel speed during cornering but are designed to keep the axles close to phase in straight-ahead situations. They both accomplish this by making use of driven versus coasting (or positive vs negative) torque. When torque is being applied thru the driveshaft they both try to "engage" the axles equally; the difference is in the mechanism.
A Limited Slip uses a clutch pack or some other arrangement of friction material and spring tension to cause the spinning axle to "pull" the non-spinning axle along with it, hopefully pulling your Jeep out of that mess. They are smooth in engagement so parts breakage is less and they are very streetable, but friction material tends to wear (think brakes and clutches) so there is a cost associated with that. In addition, it's possible to "smoke" the clutch pack in a really stuck situation...
Lockers, on the other hand, use a mechanical action to lock the axles in phase. This is true whether the locker is passive or active (switchable) and results in a "live axle" when locked. Hence, they tend to be better at more aggressive wheeling but at the cost of streetability, at least in the case of passive lockers.
I'm not sure why I went on and on about this...sorry.:o

[mudslut]

A differential is designed to accommodate the difference in turning radius between two ends of an axle when going around corners. This works great when traction is not the primary concern but does allow power to be transferred to the non-tractive wheel. On the other end of the axle spectrum is the "live axle" which is solid from one end to the other, hence all power is transmitted to each end equally. This is an ideal setup where traction is the primary concern but sacrifices drivability.
There are various means of addressing this issue, but they fall into 3 basic categories; Limited Slip, Lockers and spools. A spool is a simple device that eliminates the differential altogether thereby locking the 2 axles together in phase, creating a live axle. This is also the end result of a "Lincoln Locker"; by welding the differential spiders you have locked the axles in phase and eliminated the differential action. Advantage: awesome power transfer to both wheels equally. Disadvantage: Drivability suffers greatly and LOTS of wear points; tires first, then axles, drivelines, etc. One important note; a live front axle WILL try to drive you wherever it is pointed.
Next are the Limited Slip and Locker type differentials; as the name implies these are both differentials so they do allow varying wheel speed during cornering but are designed to keep the axles close to phase in straight-ahead situations. They both accomplish this by making use of driven versus coasting (or positive vs negative) torque. When torque is being applied thru the driveshaft they both try to "engage" the axles equally; the difference is in the mechanism.
A Limited Slip uses a clutch pack or some other arrangement of friction material and spring tension to cause the spinning axle to "pull" the non-spinning axle along with it, hopefully pulling your Jeep out of that mess. They are smooth in engagement so parts breakage is less and they are very streetable, but friction material tends to wear (think brakes and clutches) so there is a cost associated with that. In addition, it's possible to "smoke" the clutch pack in a really stuck situation...
Lockers, on the other hand, use a mechanical action to lock the axles in phase. This is true whether the locker is passive or active (switchable) and results in a "live axle" when locked. Hence, they tend to be better at more aggressive wheeling but at the cost of streetability, at least in the case of passive lockers.
I'm not sure why I went on and on about this...sorry.:o

well put ...I was asking the difference between welded or lockers ???????

[mudslut]

I know the diff. between locked and not locked ...lockers over rated

[cantab27]

I know the diff. between locked and not locked ...lockers over rated

and ya point is .............:rolleye0012:

[Firemanray]

I've never "spooled" or "lincoln locked" a front diff but I would hesitate to do that. If you've got big grippy mudders the stresses applied to EVERYTHING is tremendous while turning on anything not slippery. Unless you're running a Dana 60 or something things may go pop!

[mudslut]

I've never "spooled" or "lincoln locked" a front diff but I would hesitate to do that. If you've got big grippy mudders the stresses applied to EVERYTHING is tremendous while turning on anything not slippery. Unless you're running a Dana 60 or something things may go pop!

yes bad things happen...pops cost money$$$$$$$$$$