New Member from Miami with QUESTIONS!!!

[02Tahoe]

Hey guys, im new here and i'm a Tahoe Z71 owner who just sold his ATV for lack of legal riding areas. That being said i'm looking to get a weekend wheeler, and have a small budget and have narrowed it down to 2 different vehicles. First one is a MID 90's Toyo Land Cruiser or the reason i'm here a MID 0'2 Cherokee. The Toyo's ($ 4-5k) are over twice the price of all the Cherokee's ($1,600 - 2,500) i'm finding. I live near Miami Florida and there is a LOT of mud down here and watery trails, I like trail riding and will go through mud if i need to, but i grew out of sinking **** in the mud after my 20's lol. Can you guys shed some light on this for me as i'm new to the non-ATV wheeling world. Can i get some suggestions on inexpensive routes to go on parts like the lunch box type lockers and what not. And the order i should get the parts (Tires and size, lift (type),snorkel, shocks, lockers, and so on. I;m not a rich man so i need to buy smart. I live in the Miami area so there is A LOT of mud and water. What's the difference in LONG arm suspension lift kits and reg kits, besides a **** ton of cash?

[4.3LXJ]

Welcome Brandon. The most bang for your buck for a trail rig is 3" lift and 31" tires which will fit on stock rims, lunch box locker in the rear and you will have a very capable rig. If you don't go any higher than that, you won't have to worry about long arm suspension,

[02Tahoe]

I dont have the JEEP yet, thats what im here for, thinking of selling the Hoe and getting a Jeep XJ or Land cruiser.

[02Tahoe]

Silly question about tires, what size 31 do i start looking for like 285 70 17 is my tahoe atm

[4.3LXJ]

There are two sizes of 15 inch 31s. 31X10.50X15 will fit on stock wheels. 12.50X31X15 is a little wide for stock wheels, especially in your mud down there

[bluedragon436]

Yeah I'd def look into some 12.5" wide 31's w/ a low CG lift, and pick yourself up an XJ to build up like you want it!! Much cheaper than the Toy's... But would def not say anything bad about the Toy's either.. especially not with the right parts and setup...

[02Tahoe]

LOL ok i'm a retard, am i looking for 31-12.50-15 or 31-10-15? :( im a 32 year old ATVer new to Big boy 4x4ing so speak slowly to me!!!

[bluedragon436]

I'd look for the 31-12.50-15... Don't feel bad or anything about asking any questions that pop into your head, now or anytime during your purchase/build-up

[4.3LXJ]

Yeah, that is about right. Go to and you will see what is available in the 10.40 size

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Jeep-Truck-Tires.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=536&t_pt=101509&Most+Popular+Sizes_PQ=31x10.5R15

Then do a search for 31X11.50 and 12.5 and if you haven't had sensor overload, you can see what is available in the size range

[XJ Wheeler]

Might i suggest the 10.50 wide due to the lack of availability of a 31x12.50 in case you need another. 31x10.50 is just about the most common tires on smaller offroaders so you'll be able to find them everywhere. Also they're cheaper and easier on the bearings.

[TimmyTXJ]

Just to throw in my two cents about the tires. I'm on a 3" lift and I'm getting ready to get tires as well, I'll be going with 32s but I also have no problem trimming the fenders for clearance. BFG KM2 Mud Terrains seem to do really well in mud. I'm looking at either those or a set of the Cooper STTs.

XJTalk is an awesome place to ask questions. I'm new to wheeling as well and I've found the community here to be invaluable in offering constructive advice. Another thing to note, most lift manufacturers will list a recommended tire and wheel size for their kits so you don't have to figure it out for yourself.

[02Tahoe]

So is was told that 33's will fit on stock rims but i will need a 3' lift?

[4.3LXJ]

The narrow 10.50s will. But you will need to trim your fenders

[02Tahoe]

I got sent some pics for a jeep im interested in and wanted your opinions on it, how do i link the pic from my computer to here?

[4.3LXJ]

If you click on the go advanced option for posting, go towards the bottom and click on manage attachments. Choose your file and wait for it to upload then click submit and then post

[02Tahoe]

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[02Tahoe]

Shes a 98 one owner, i spoke to him and he order it from jeep with EVERY option he could, included a "UP Country" package, its mint BUT 225,000 miles on it.

[02Tahoe]

i found a new upgraded swap out if needed from Summit its a 4.7 STROKER direct swap lol
$2900 for that

http://www.summitracing.com/cart/quote/1121711

[4.3LXJ]

That is a very clean looking Jeep

[02Tahoe]

Any feedback would be good, he wants 4900 but price is not set in stone.

[02Tahoe]

The vin is 1j4-fj78s0wl-240284

He's asking 4,900 but not set in stone.

[89Laredo]

Geniusvin.com free Carfax type thing.

4900 is way too much.

225k is nothing.

[Carves]

Pretty thing - to be used as an ATV.

If its all original and unmolested ... I'd buy it @ $4900, garage it ... and only use it for birthdays, weddings and funerals.

X 2 with 89Laredo .... The mileage, whilst on the high side, is probably not an issue - if the motor, mirrors the bodywork condition.

[02Tahoe]

Whats a serious offer i can say to him?

[89Laredo]

KBB says 4250 in Very good condition, which I still think is way too high.
Your prices must be alot higher there, or Im just used to buying 20+ year old jeeps.
With two wrecks and 225k I would start at ~3k and not pay more than 4.
Make sure you look over the front and rear frame rails and stuff really well for damage.
http://www.kbb.com/jeep/cherokee/1998-jeep-cherokee/limited-sport-utility-4d/?condition=very-good&vehicleid=6701&intent=buy-used&mileage=225000&options=254824|true|254896|true|254876|false|25488 1|true|254890|true|2729573|true|254899|true|254955 |true&pricetype=private-party

[02Tahoe]

It was in 2 wrecks?

[89Laredo]

I guess you didnt run the vin...
Im thinking they were pretty minor and as long as there is no visible damage it wouldnt scare me away from buying it.

If you really want to know you can go to your police station and give them these report numbers and get the reports for cheap/free. (might have to go to Naples for the one from 09 and FSP for the one from 98)
11/16/1998 FL State Agency LEFT REAR IMPACT WITH A PARKED VEHICLE (Case #:530986970)

10/15/2009 NAPLES, FL Police Report ACCIDENT REPORTED (Case #:09-27439)

[02Tahoe]

How did you run it?

[89Laredo]

Geniusvin.com free Carfax type thing.
:poke:

[Brasscatz]

That is a beautiful looking Jeep! I agree that $4900 is a bit high, but I can't see it in person. I would try to talk him down to at least $4. Sometimes paying a bit more will pay off in the long run because you may not find another in that condition!