Critique my build

[ArmyGuy45]

This is my possible set up for the 2001 XJ, if you have any experience with any of these items, good or bad, please post up:

Susp and Tires:

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-suspension-lift-kits/xj-cherokee-84-01-jeep-suspension-lift-kits/rustys-xj-complete-cherokee-3-spring-pack-kit.html

Rusty's XJ Complete Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit with Tire & Wheel Package

Component Box
1 x XJ Complete Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit Component Box $1,398.00
Front Shocks
2 x Rusty's RX100 Performance Shock: RX-27 $0.00
Rear Shocks
2 x Rusty's RX100 Performance Shock: RX-26 $0.00
Front Coil Springs
1 x Rusty's Coils – XJ 3" HD Front $0.00
Rear Springs
1 x Rusty's Leaf Springs - XJ - 3.5" - Rear (pair) $0.00
Axle Type
4 x Rusty's Dana 30 / Dana 35 – U-Bolts - HD Grade 8 (each) $0.00
Tire & Wheel package
4 x Allied Black Wheels with 31x10.50-15 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Tires $0.00
Lug Nuts
20 x Wheel Lugs - 1/2" $0.00
Wheel Caps
4 x Center Cap - For Black Rockcrawler Wheel $0.00
JKS Disconnects
1 x JKS Quicker Disconnects - 0" to 4" Lift - TJ / XJ / ZJ $148.00
Steering Stabilizer
1 x Rusty's Stabilizers - Single Perfomance (XJ,TJ,ZJ,YJ) $35.00
Total:$1,581.00


Air intake:

http://www.spectreperformance.com/index.php/91-01-jeep-cherokee-4-0l-red-hprtm-filter.html
Part # : 9948
Replacement filter: HPR9833
Price: $199.99

Fuel Tank:
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST3003
30.5 gal replacement fuel tank for main tank
$899.99

Front and Rear Bumper:

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Bumpers-Tire-Carriers-Winch-Mounts/XRC-Rear-Bumper-with-Hitch.aspx?t_c=64&t_s=26&t_pt=3486&t_pl=101045&t_pn=S%2fB76850#ReadReview
Smittybilt XRC Rear Bumper with Hitch - 76850
$399.99

http://www.smittybiltdepot.com/Smittybilt-Winches-and-Winch-Accessories/Black-Powdercoated-2-inch-Receiver-Mounted-D-Ring-Shackle.aspx?t_c=18&t_s=190&t_pt=8404&t_pn=S%2FB29312B
Black Powdercoated 2 inch Receiver Mounted D-Ring Shackle
$29.99

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Bumpers-Tire-Carriers-Winch-Mounts/XRC-Front-Bumper-with-Winch-Plate.aspx?t_c=64&t_s=26&t_pt=6410&t_pl=101084&t_pn=S%2fB76810
XRC Front Bumper with Winch Plate - 76810
$399.99

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Bumpers-Tire-Carriers-Winch-Mounts/XRC-Front-Bull-Bar-Option.aspx?t_c=64&t_s=26&t_pt=6410&t_pl=101084&t_pn=S%2fB76811
XRC Front Bull Bar Option - 76811
$99.99

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-Winch-Accessories/X2O-8-000-lb-Amphibious-Winch.aspx?t_c=18&t_s=300&t_pt=100702&t_pl=6426&t_pn=S%2fB97380
X2O 8,000 lb. Amphibious Winch - 97380
$399.99


Air Compressor:

http://www.4wheelparts.com/Winches-Winch-Accessories/Compact-On-Board-Air-Compressor-Kit.aspx?t_c=18&t_s=190&t_pt=100435&t_pl=393&t_pn=ARBCKSA12#active1
Compact On-Board Air Compressor Kit - CKSA12
$161.99

Roof Rack:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=627
Based out of Phx,AZ
$699.97

Running Total: $4875 + tax and shipping




Maybe Later:

Header:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Performance-Parts/Banks-TorqueTube-Exhaust-Manifolds.aspx?t_c=74&t_s=49&t_pt=5619&t_pl=6826&Year=2001&Make=JEEP&Model=CHEROKEE+(XJ)&Engine=4.0L+L6+242+CID+GAS
Banks Torque Tube Exhaust Header
$486.99

Cat Back Exhaust:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Performance-Parts/High-Quality-Austenitic-Stainless-Steel-Cat-Back-Exhaust-System.aspx?t_c=74&t_s=49&t_pt=3383&t_pl=103027&t_pn=BOR140071
Borla High-Quality Austenitic Stainless Steel Cat-Back Exhaust System - 140071
$448.99

High Flow Cat:
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Total for Maybe Later: $936 + 4875(Running Total) = $5811

[bigjim350]

That is quite a large amount of money to sink into a xj. My only suggestion would be is, make sure you buy the biggest lift you think you will ever want. Lots of folks buy a smaller lift then later decide to go bigger, thus spending even more money. Also you dont need a 10k winch, the 8k will be plenty i promise. I would be careful about the chip. Was not a good idea on my jeep. The chip gets rid of the rev limiter, which is very nice to have while wheeling. Dont waste money on a cat-back either. Do like I did and go to a muffler shop and buy a used muffler (slp loudmouth im my case) and have it installed for less than $100. Will flow just as well. Also $700 seems crazy for a roof rack, either search cl for a long time to find a used one, or save yourself a ton of money and build your own. You could buy a welder and pipe for alot less than $700.

[ArmyGuy45]

That is quite a large amount of money to sink into a xj. My only suggestion would be is, make sure you buy the biggest lift you think you will ever want. Lots of folks buy a smaller lift then later decide to go bigger, thus spending even more money. Also you dont need a 10k winch, the 8k will be plenty i promise. I would be careful about the chip. Was not a good idea on my jeep. The chip gets rid of the rev limiter, which is very nice to have while wheeling. Dont waste money on a cat-back either. Do like I did and go to a muffler shop and buy a used muffler (slp loudmouth im my case) and have it installed for less than $100. Will flow just as well. Also $700 seems crazy for a roof rack, either search cl for a long time to find a used one, or save yourself a ton of money and build your own. You could buy a welder and pipe for alot less than $700.

Good advice and I will make the adjustments to the post when I get back from mission. Thank you

The bad part about going higher than 3 is you have to modifying everything which would cost more money.

As for the Cat back, my pipe is pretty rusted and old, do you think it would just be better to replace the whole system with something stainless?

[4.3LXJ]

A word of advice on Rusty's. They have very high shipping. I hear the trick is to call then and get the lowest shipping prices available. By the time they add that shipping in the prices aren't nearly as good

[ArmyGuy45]

A word of advice on Rusty's. They have very high shipping. I hear the trick is to call then and get the lowest shipping prices available. By the time they add that shipping in the prices aren't nearly as good

I know you have been at this longer than I have. Who would you suggest for a good 3 inch lift and good for the money.

[4.3LXJ]

Their prices are still good, and no one has a package deal like theirs. However, the word is that by calling instead of buying on line, you will probably save a few hundred dollars on shipping and handling.

[EekGirl96]

I know you have been at this longer than I have. Who would you suggest for a good 3 inch lift and good for the money.

I have a Rough Country 6.5" lift kit(sits at 7.5" since I added coil spacers and blocks in the rear) and I like it. Its rough to begin with but after awhile you dont even notice it, its cheap too...I think I spent no more than $1200 for my lift kit(my price is probably way off lol)

[ArmyGuy45]

I have a Rough Country 6.5" lift kit(sits at 7.5" since I added coil spacers and blocks in the rear) and I like it. Its rough to begin with but after awhile you dont even notice it, its cheap too...I think I spent no more than $1200 for my lift kit(my price is probably way off lol)

I dont want to go that high since its a DD and the modifications it takes to go that high are costly.

[ArmyGuy45]

Their prices are still good, and no one has a package deal like theirs. However, the word is that by calling instead of buying on line, you will probably save a few hundred dollars on shipping and handling.

Will do, thx for the tip.

[EekGirl96]

They have 3" lift kits ranging from $255-$355...they also have 4.5" lift kits available...I was just giving an example

[ArmyGuy45]

370 for shipping for the whole package. Would you say that is fair since its 4 tires and rims?

[4.3LXJ]

Tough to say. It will be truck freight. Take the weight and call UPS and ask them for how much for truck freight at that weight.

[ArmyGuy45]

Tough to say. It will be truck freight. Take the weight and call UPS and ask them for how much for truck freight at that weight.

Will do.

[thesupercroc]

I would also look into upgrading the battery wiring, alt and headlights. going to a duel battery set up might be prudent.

But some of that might be just me.

[ArmyGuy45]

I would also look into upgrading the battery wiring, alt and headlights. going to a duel battery set up might be prudent.

But some of that might be just me.

I will have room since the intake will be removed in place of the cowl intake. I thought the compressor would go there but do you feel a 2nd battery would be better?

[thesupercroc]

I will have room since the intake will be removed in place of the cowl intake. I thought the compressor would go there but do you feel a 2nd battery would be better?

For I would put the second battery under the hood and the compressor in the back in that cuby hole on the passenger side.

[Pookapotamus]

for an air compressor you cant beat the ARB, its more pricey but well worth it! and fits right beside the brake booster.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/pookapotamus/Rigor%20Mortis/DSCN0788.jpg

[ArmyGuy45]

For I would put the second battery under the hood and the compressor in the back in that cuby hole on the passenger side.

Is there a pic of this installed?

I assume this is what you are talking about

http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/editorials/arb-compressor-in-xj/39851613/arbs-single-piston-compressor-fits-perfectly-in-the-side-of-the-xj-ch.jpg

http://blogs.off-roadweb.com/6766720/editorials/arb-compressor-in-xj/

[ArmyGuy45]

for an air compressor you cant beat the ARB, its more pricey but well worth it! and fits right beside the brake booster.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii191/pookapotamus/Rigor%20Mortis/DSCN0788.jpg

I have ABS next to my Master Cylinder.

http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q520/ArmyGuy1911/0102_zps6d65ee99.jpg

[thesupercroc]

more like this http://www.ericsxj.com/oba.htm Eric has a very good OBA set up

http://s8.postimage.org/owzkdaa75/oba09.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/owzkdaa75/)

http://s8.postimage.org/mgxqzfs4h/oba56.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/mgxqzfs4h/)

that is most likely how I would do it.

[4.3LXJ]

When filling tires, duty cycle is something to be considered. The 20% duty cycle would be barely adequate, or if the tires are very large inadequate. For instance, my OBA uses an AC compressor rated at 11.0 CFM and takes four minutes to fill four 31" tires. I find these estimates a little generous on fill times

[cpttuna]

Check cpttuna's mods on this site and you will see my stainless exhaust system.. Borla muffler $110 , ss cat $105 ss pipe $20 and $45 to the muffler shop to fabricate everything. The pipe came from the local recycling center.

[Dredwolf]

When filling tires, duty cycle is something to be considered. The 20% duty cycle would be barely adequate, or if the tires are very large inadequate. For instance, my OBA uses an AC compressor rated at 11.0 CFM and takes four minutes to fill four 31" tires. I find these estimates a little generous on fill times

Does anybody use bumper or cage tubes for air reservoirs anymore?:confused:

We were doing that with the early ARB units, or converted York A/C compressors for OBA.

[gary63]

roll cages would get moister in and rust from the inside and may fale and bumper would get dented and crack or holes and leak.I use to use them.

[ArmyGuy45]

more like this http://www.ericsxj.com/oba.htm Eric has a very good OBA set up

http://s8.postimage.org/owzkdaa75/oba09.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/owzkdaa75/)

http://s8.postimage.org/mgxqzfs4h/oba56.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/mgxqzfs4h/)

that is most likely how I would do it.

Very nice write up. Thx.

[ArmyGuy45]

Well for some reason I cannot edit the first post so I am posting a new list here. I have found a better site with better prices and free shipping through one of our sponsors.

Susp and Tires:

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-suspension-lift-kits/xj-cherokee-84-01-jeep-suspension-lift-kits/rustys-xj-complete-cherokee-3-spring-pack-kit.html

Rusty's XJ Complete Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit with Tire & Wheel Package

Component Box
1 x XJ Complete Cherokee 3" Spring Pack Kit Component Box $1,398.00
Front Shocks
2 x Rusty's RX100 Performance Shock: RX-27 $0.00
Rear Shocks
2 x Rusty's RX100 Performance Shock: RX-26 $0.00
Front Coil Springs
1 x Rusty's Coils – XJ 3" HD Front $0.00
Rear Springs
1 x Rusty's Leaf Springs - XJ - 3.5" - Rear (pair) $0.00
Axle Type
4 x Rusty's Dana 30 / Dana 35 – U-Bolts - HD Grade 8 (each) $0.00
Tire & Wheel package
4 x Allied Black Wheels with 31x10.50-15 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Tires $0.00
Lug Nuts
20 x Wheel Lugs - 1/2" $0.00
Wheel Caps
4 x Center Cap - For Black Rockcrawler Wheel $0.00
JKS Disconnects
1 x JKS Quicker Disconnects - 0" to 4" Lift - TJ / XJ / ZJ $148.00
Steering Stabilizer
1 x Rusty's Stabilizers - Single Perfomance (XJ,TJ,ZJ,YJ) $35.00
Total:$1,581.00


Air intake:

http://www.spectreperformance.com/index.php/91-01-jeep-cherokee-4-0l-red-hprtm-filter.html
Part # : 9948
Replacement filter: HPR9833
Price: $199.99

Fuel Tank:
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=GST3003
30.5 gal replacement fuel tank for main tank
$899.99

Front and Rear Bumper:

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/rear-bumper-with-hitch-8401-cherokee-p-13194.html
Smittybilt XRC Rear Bumper with Hitch 84-01 Cherokee XJ- 76850
$399.95 + Free Shipping

http://www.smittybiltdepot.com/Smittybilt-Winches-and-Winch-Accessories/Black-Powdercoated-2-inch-Receiver-Mounted-D-Ring-Shackle.aspx?t_c=18&t_s=190&t_pt=8404&t_pn=S%2FB29312B
Black Powdercoated 2 inch Receiver Mounted D-Ring Shackle
$29.99

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/front-bumper-with-winch-plate-8401-cherokee-p-13191.html
XRC Front Bumper with Winch Plate 84-01 Cherokee- 76810
$399.95 + Free Shipping

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/front-bumper-optional-bull-p-13192.html
XRC Front Bull Bar Option - 76811
$99.95 + Free Shipping

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/smittybilt-winch-p-13236.html
X2O 8,000 lb. Amphibious Winch - 97380
$399.95 + Free Shipping

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/smittybilt-inch-dring-with-black-finish-p-13420.html
SmittyBilt 3/4 inch D-Ring with Black Finish
$11.95 x4 = $47.80


Air Compressor:

http://www.shopjeepparts.com/viair-450c-compressor-duty-p-1245.html
VIAIR 450C Air Compressor - 100% Duty
$215 + Free Shipping

Roof Rack:
http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=16&products_id=627
Based out of Phx,AZ
$699.97

Running Total: $4978 + tax and shipping

[4.3LXJ]

Been saving up your money for when you come home eh?

[ArmyGuy45]

Been saving up your money for when you come home eh?

Oh you know it. The deal is the wife has to get a Mini for me to deck out the XJ.

[Kenny811]

Allot of good advise on here for & about your build. Not everything you put on your jeep should be or needs to be new. If you can find it used and re-build it, or clean it up as new than you both learn & save $$$$. I bought a complete Rustys suspension package, but I had it shipped to me in Vancouver Wa. their price to ship 600, my cost to have it shipped my self..... $130. When I did my build I wheeled & dealed with all the vendors on shipping, so did some did not. My advice to you, shop everything, find the deals and save the $$$$ And yeah $700 for a roof rack..... I spent less than that on a Aussie & Detroit locker, new & shipped to my door.

[ArmyGuy45]

Allot of good advise on here for & about your build. Not everything you put on your jeep should be or needs to be new. If you can find it used and re-build it, or clean it up as new than you both learn & save $$$$. I bought a complete Rustys suspension package, but I had it shipped to me in Vancouver Wa. their price to ship 600, my cost to have it shipped my self..... $130. When I did my build I wheeled & dealed with all the vendors on shipping, so did some did not. My advice to you, shop everything, find the deals and save the $$$$ And yeah $700 for a roof rack..... I spent less than that on a Aussie & Detroit locker, new & shipped to my door.

Well I want a solid roof rack that does NOT clamp onto the "rain gutters". Do you have any suggestions? How much weight can it take?

[Kenny811]

Well I want a solid roof rack that does NOT clamp onto the "rain gutters". Do you have any suggestions? How much weight can it take? Whats wrong with a gutter mount? There are a lot of fab designs out there, As far as weight how much stuff do you want to put up there? Tire, jack some tools?

[ArmyGuy45]

Whats wrong with a gutter mount? There are a lot of fab designs out there, As far as weight how much stuff do you want to put up there? Tire, jack some tools?

From what I have been reading, the gutter mounts are not as strong as the base mounts. Plus if you mess up the gutter you cant exactly just swap it out.

As for weight, can it hold a dead hooker? :D I am actually thinking camping equipment, tools, maybe gas, spare, etc.

[4.3LXJ]

The gutter is actually stronger. However the weight must be spread more evenly than most do. A rack with six gutter mounts is actually quite strong

[ArmyGuy45]

The gutter is actually stronger. However the weight must be spread more evenly than most do. A rack with six gutter mounts is actually quite strong

I guess I need to do more research.