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MSK
09-13-2012, 03:58 AM
Hello who can help with drawings and the exact sizes for lift kit 4.5 manufacturing for jeep cherokee 4.0L 1994.

cantab27
09-13-2012, 04:17 AM
are you making one or buying one...heres a little reading for you...


http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2472

MSK
09-13-2012, 04:28 AM
Thanks for the interesting link above but there is no accurate drawings and dimensions of the elements composes lift kit 4.5

xj4life2
09-13-2012, 11:04 AM
Your request might be a little tough due to patent infridgements here in the USA, I guess someone could go and measure thier lift for you and draw pictures ect ect but that would be very time consuming. What are you trying to acomplish? there are several ways to lift an XJ useing stock parts off other vehicles,I'm not sure how that would translate to the common vehicles in your country though. If you could be more specific on the purpose of your question that would be helpful.We also have many vendors here that would be happy to sell you parts and ship them to you.

4.3LXJ
09-13-2012, 12:14 PM
http://www.xjtalk.com/showthread.php?t=8169&highlight=build

This is as good as it gets on here and probably any forum. This is a common question. But the reality is you have to make some decisions on what features you are going to incorporate. The brackets are the hardest part and the arms are the easy part. That is why any of the forums I am a member of do not have blueprints of suspension kits. You will need good fabrication skills to do this. Otherwise, you can buy what you need for a 4.5" short arm kit, and to be honest, the pieced together kits for this height are about the same as just buying the kit for the front. You can bastard pack the rear and save some money

DETOURS
09-13-2012, 12:30 PM
Dang metric system.....:bang:

07Negative
09-13-2012, 08:42 PM
Here's another option. Buy a lift kit. Take measurements. Install it onto your XJ. Throw back a few beers and draw some cartoon like illustration. Like putting together Ikea furniture, but for lift kits. Remove all warning labels too. Just don't include them.

MSK
09-14-2012, 01:07 AM
I bought but then lift 4.5 set with delivery becomes not available to me at cost.
Completely having technical base for manufacturing of lift kit 4.5 the sizes are required.

Mudderoy
09-14-2012, 07:23 AM
I think what we are dealing with here is a fellow Jeeper wanting to lift his Jeep but finding that is cost prohibitive to order a kit and have it shipped.

So what other things can he do to get the lift he wants?

4.3LXJ
09-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Maybe we should ask what part of the world he is in

xj4life2
09-14-2012, 10:56 AM
According to his Sig. he is in Moscow , so finding vehicles that we know are good swap vehicles are going to be tough to find as USA rig have not been imported to Russia untill recently. However if he can find them :
1. front coils off a v8 Grand cherokee
2. rear chevy s10 springs with the XJ main spring (bastard Pack)
This will give you 4" of lift, you can fab the front upper and lower arms by setting the vehicle up then measure from bracket to bracket. This will get him close. I have seen stock arms used on this size lift with no issues . As for the drop pitman I think its the TJ that comes with a drop from the factory stock that will work also. This being said, I will again make the statment that advanced welding and fab skills are required and that trial and error is the rule of thumb.Its unfortunate that he is unable to recieve the kit he ordered .

4.3LXJ
09-14-2012, 10:58 AM
According to his Sig. he is in Moscow , so finding vehicles that we know are good swap vehicles are going to be tough to find as USA rig have not been imported to Russia untill recently. However if he can find them :
1. front coils off a v8 Grand cherokee
2. rear chevy s10 springs with the XJ main spring (bastard Pack)
This will give you 4" of lift, you can fab the front upper and lower arms by setting the vehicle up then measure from bracket to bracket. This will get him close. I have seen stock arms used on this size lift with no issues . As for the drop pitman I think its the TJ that comes with a drop from the factory stock that will work also. This being said, I will again make the statment that advanced welding and fab skills are required and that trial and error is the rule of thumb.Its unfortunate that he is unable to recieve the kit he ordered .

You have to add a 2" coil spacer to that list.

xj4life2
09-14-2012, 11:16 AM
You have to add a 2" coil spacer to that list.

He wont have access to those, he would have to extend his coil spring mounts by 2"'s Sorry about the error

xj4life2
09-14-2012, 11:35 AM
Found this after one search :

Control Arm Length Application Chart
For Jeep Cherokee (XJ)

Lift...........Lower Control Arms/Upper Control Arms
********Decimal**Fraction**Decimal**Fraction
Stock........15.75.......15 ¾........15.00.......15
2”.............15.92.......16............14.88 .... ...15
3”.............16.09.......16............14.92 .... ...15
4”.............16.33.......16 3/8......15.03.......15
4.5”..........16.47.......16 ½........15.11.......15
5”.............16.62.......16 5/8......15.21.......15 ¼
6”.............16.97.......17............15.44 .... ...15 ½
7”.............17.36.......17 3/8......15.74.......15 ¾
8”.............17.81.......17 ¾........16.09.......16
9”.............18.30.......18 ¼........16.50.......16 ½
10”...........18.82.......18 ¾........16.96.......17

bluedragon436
09-14-2012, 11:42 AM
Check out IronMan4x4 (http://www.suspensionsolutions.co.za/html/jeep/20.html) They have a kit for the XJ, and according to their recent news articles they have a rep there in Moscow.. If nothing else they may have other options to help you get lifted where you want to be... I know the news article says they have released stuff for two models there, but you might be able to talk to the shop they referenced.. figure if they are able to get parts for those two vehicles from IronMan, they should be able to order in parts for yours as well from them or maybe other manufacturers... here is the info from their site:

News Release:

Ironman 4x4 have developed and released an upgraded suspension solution for the popular Russian UAZ Hunter and Patriot.

For further information please contact:
Autoventuriv Russia
125080, Moscow,
Volokolamskoe shosse, 15/22,
Russia.
ph +7 (499)158 67 48
ph/fax +7 (495) 783 98 73
[email protected]
http://www.autoventuri.ru

xj4life2
09-14-2012, 11:46 AM
Check out IronMan4x4 (http://www.suspensionsolutions.co.za/html/jeep/20.html) They have a kit for the XJ, and according to their recent news articles they have a rep there in Moscow.. If nothing else they may have other options to help you get lifted where you want to be... I know the news article says they have released stuff for two models there, but you might be able to talk to the shop they referenced.. figure if they are able to get parts for those two vehicles from IronMan, they should be able to order in parts for yours as well from them or maybe other manufacturers... here is the info from their site:

News Release:

Ironman 4x4 have developed and released an upgraded suspension solution for the popular Russian UAZ Hunter and Patriot.

For further information please contact:
Autoventuriv Russia
125080, Moscow,
Volokolamskoe shosse, 15/22,
Russia.
ph +7 (499)158 67 48
ph/fax +7 (495) 783 98 73
[email protected]
http://www.autoventuri.ru

Nice find , had no idea , but his should help I hope :

Проверить IronMan4x4 они имеют комплект для XJ, и согласно их последние новости статьи они имеют rep там в Москве... Если ничего другого они могут иметь другие варианты, чтобы помочь вам получить отменен, где вы хотите быть... Я знаю, что новости статьи говорит они выпустили материал для двух моделей там, но вы можете быть возможность поговорить магазин, который они ссылка... Рисунок, если они в состоянии получить частей для этих двух транспортных средств от IronMan, они должны иметь возможность заказать в части для ваш также от них или может быть других производителей... Вот информация с их сайта:Пресс-релиз:Ironman 4 x 4 разработали и выпустили обновленную подвеска решение для популярный российский УАЗ Хантер и патриот.За дополнительной информацией обращайтесь:Autoventuriv Россия125080, Москва,Волоколамское шоссе, 15/22,Россия.pH + 7 (499) 158-67-48Тел/Факс + 7 (495) 783-98-73

prcjeep
09-14-2012, 01:57 PM
Nice find , had no idea , but his should help I hope :

Проверить IronMan4x4 они имеют комплект для XJ, и согласно их последние новости статьи они имеют rep там в Москве... Если ничего другого они могут иметь другие варианты, чтобы помочь вам получить отменен, где вы хотите быть... Я знаю, что новости статьи говорит они выпустили материал для двух моделей там, но вы можете быть возможность поговорить магазин, который они ссылка... Рисунок, если они в состоянии получить частей для этих двух транспортных средств от IronMan, они должны иметь возможность заказать в части для ваш также от них или может быть других производителей... Вот информация с их сайта:Пресс-релиз:Ironman 4 x 4 разработали и выпустили обновленную подвеска решение для популярный российский УАЗ Хантер и патриот.За дополнительной информацией обращайтесь:Autoventuriv Россия125080, Москва,Волоколамское шоссе, 15/22,Россия.pH + 7 (499) 158-67-48Тел/Факс + 7 (495) 783-98-73

Say what? lol i wish i was fluent in more than two languages. Language barriers are so frustrating!

xj4life2
09-14-2012, 03:04 PM
Huh I thought everybody was fluent in 7 languages....ok I'm not either but there's nothing wrong with knowing a couple , right??

bluedragon436
09-14-2012, 03:12 PM
Say what? lol i wish i was fluent in more than two languages. Language barriers are so frustrating!

I am def. not fluent in more than one... and hell, I'm not even that fluent in it properly anyways.. LOL.. All I know is that at least the info above should hopefully help the OP get in touch with someone that might be able to get him to the point he is looking to get his XJ too...

oderdene
09-14-2012, 06:09 PM
Hi MSK, hope you already checked http://jeep.avtograd.ru/ .People call it jeep bible in russian. I found some useful info from ukrainian 4x4 forum, but can not remember link,

oderdene
09-14-2012, 06:16 PM
I have ~4,5" lift, rustys 3" hd coil with 1.5" spacer (made from conveyor belt), added 1st and 2nd leaf off from gaz24 under main leaf of XJ, 3" shocks from rustys. Running good with 31x10,5, no vibe etc, little stiff

MSK
09-19-2012, 01:09 AM
thanks I will think